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Long Shots Loom as Spoilers in Tight November Races Across Nation [Watch the Libertarians]
New York Times ^ | 09/29/2014 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 09/29/2014 11:35:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON — In an election year shaped by voter anger toward the political establishment, the outcome of an unusually large number of close Senate and governor’s races could be determined by the outsize role of third-party candidates.

The potential spoilers include a quixotic former three-term senator, a pizza delivery man and an Alaskan whose name, Fish, summons a favored native food. They represent independents, Libertarians and other parties that have suddenly become relevant — and could affect the balance of power in Congress and decide who runs the governor’s offices in several states.

“If people don’t like their choices with the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate, then you’re going to see a spurt in third-party candidates, so they can definitely affect outcomes,” said Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas.

To mitigate the impact of Libertarian candidates in North Carolina and other states, Republicans are enlisting Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky to appeal to Libertarian-leaning voters. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce last week recorded commercials featuring Mr. Paul, which will air in closely contested states.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014; elections; libertatians; spoilers
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Gonna stop confessin there?


21 posted on 09/29/2014 1:04:04 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
We got TOO many idiots that believe RINOs are Republicans.
It's time to CLEAN OUR OWN PARTY !
The LYING "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" are counting on JUST that kind of mentality.
It's time we Conservatives changed our strategy.
SO, THEY MUST BE REMOVED FIRST, or else we'll just keep getting Marxists/Fascists LIGHT.

The "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" will NOT get the message unless THAD COCKROACH LOSES!

It is VITAL that Thad is removed, or the RINOs will do it again, and they may do it again, anyway.

REMEMBER
MISSISSIPPI



I'll take out (vote AGAINST) an "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" every time I get an opportunity to, and that INCLUDES the GENERAL ELECTION.

You got it?

"ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS"SHALL NOT PASS !



It's SIMPLE.


22 posted on 09/29/2014 1:08:30 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Say whatever you like about McCain and Romney but both:

1) Opposed Obamacare
2) Opposed Dodd-Frank
3) Opposed the Porkulus
4) Opposed Cap and Trade

RR was my all time favorite POTUS of my lifetime. Jesse Helms was my all time favorite US Senator. John Ashbrook was my all time favorite congressman. But there will never be another RR, Jesse Helms, or John Ashbrook. We have to work with what we have.


23 posted on 09/29/2014 1:08:41 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Yosemitest

I live in CA and I have been stuck with Boxer and Feinstein for over 20 years. I would gladly take Mitch McConnell and Thad Cochran over those two any day of the week.

Both are vastly preferable to their Dem opponents.
Grow up!


24 posted on 09/29/2014 1:12:52 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

But ask yourself why will there never be another Reagan? I will stipulate that McCain or Romney would be less damaging than Obama, but they would still be damaging. By electing their likes maybe the country bottoms out in 50 years instead of 30 but we would still have only two choices, bad or worse. I want the Republicans to figure out that they either need to be good, or be gone and that will never happen as long as the McConnels of the world keep getting re-elected by being “better than the rat”.


25 posted on 09/29/2014 1:20:39 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I've been lied to, too many times.
I did 3 and a half years in "the Land of Shake and Bake", in "the Land of Fruits and Nuts", and I can understand your frustration.
But we must quit playing checkers and start playing Chess.
You might, but I WON'T !
NO LONGER ~WILL I PLAY ~ THEIR GAME !
I say again:
26 posted on 09/29/2014 1:22:10 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

So.....what do you suggest we do this November?

Sit at home?

Vote third party?

Vote Dem?


27 posted on 09/29/2014 1:23:38 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
By voting the way you do, you ENABLE the very problem you say you're against, "Marxism/Fascism Light".
28 posted on 09/29/2014 1:25:08 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I’ve told you what I do.

I vote conservative in the primary. I vote GOP in the general. Always have. No regrets.

I am now asking you what YOU would do?

The alternatives are:

1) Vote Dem.
2) Vote Third Party
3) Not vote

Or...is there something ELSE we can do? What is your suggestion? What other alternatives are there available between now and November?


29 posted on 09/29/2014 1:33:39 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

Un-serious people vote for un-serious candidates. Not much to be done about it.


30 posted on 09/29/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Yes there is! Throw them out!
And keep throwing them out!
And NEVER let an "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" win.
Then, in the long run, they'll WAKE UP and ONLY run Conservatives!
You got it?
31 posted on 09/29/2014 1:39:05 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SeekAndFind

NYT: Ooooh look at the shiny objects, and puppies!


32 posted on 09/29/2014 1:49:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The first stage of cultural death is denial.)
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To: 12th_Monkey
Libertarians put democrats into office...

...and Republicans vote to fund Obamacare (including abortions), increase social welfare spending, increase Food Stamps, Obamaphones, fund the NSA, confirm Chief Justice Roberts, pass No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, Common Core, increase the debt limit, sell our sovereignty, destroy our Constitution, etc....

The only difference between you and I is that I no longer support the bastards who are destroying our country and you still do.

33 posted on 09/29/2014 2:28:57 PM PDT by nitzy
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Exactly. Three things elect Democrats:

1) Voting Democrat
2) Voting Third Party
3) Not voting.

You forgot the most important one....

Republicans nominating progressive socialists in primaries.

34 posted on 09/29/2014 2:31:11 PM PDT by nitzy
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I would suggest you consider whether a candidate, in the long run, helps or hurts the goal of shrinking the size and scope of government. If I lived in Mississippi or Kentucky that would certainly involve voting 3rd party or staying at home. If I lived in Kansas I believe Roberts squeaking by serves my long term interests best. As I live in Texas I happily vote for Cruz but will never again pull the lever for Cornyn.


35 posted on 09/29/2014 2:34:09 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
So.....what do you suggest we do this November?

I will vote for a Conservative who puts principal in front of political expedience. One who truly believes and credibly articulates the principals of small government, free markets, person liberty, American exceptionalism and the supremacy of Judeo/Christian Western culture over thug culture/Islam/tribalism/Third world culture. If someone like that comes from the Republican party and has a good chance of being elected, that is wonderful. I will be happy to support them. If the only person who fits the bill is from a third party, oh well. I am still going to make my opinion known via the ballot box.

36 posted on 09/29/2014 2:40:29 PM PDT by nitzy
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To: 12th_Monkey; All

Don’t think there is a well established left wing party that can pull votes away from Dems.
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Well, in 2000, Green Party candidate, Ralph Nader got 98,000 votes in Florida. Most of those votes would have gone to Al Gore had Nader not been of the ballot. Ralph Nader put George W. in the White House.


37 posted on 09/29/2014 3:22:37 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; Yosemitest; All

I would gladly take Mitch McConnell and Thad Cochran over those two any day of the week.

Both are vastly preferable to their Dem opponents.

Growup!
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You know what Yosemitest, It’s amazing how many people on here will still lick the GOP Establishment boots that just kicked them in them ass. Thad Cochran and Haley Barbour robbed a decent young Conservative of a Senate seat and disenfranchised the votes of tens of thousands of “true” Conservatives by paying Black Democrats to cross over and vote in a GOP Primary run-off. What pu**ies they are; huh Yosemitest?

So, when one of these pu**ies tell you to “Grow up”, tell him to GROW A PAIR. They’re the types of guys that if they came home and caught their wife in bed with another man would, as they were closing the door, say: “Oh, I’m sorry. I’ll go out for a cup of coffee and give you two your privacy. And, honey, after you’re through screwing him, and I come back, please let me in the house.”


38 posted on 09/29/2014 3:40:04 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker
You nailed 'em with the truth alright.
It ain't over ~ 'til it's over,~ and that INCLUDES the GENERAL.

Here the latest from September 19,2014
The writer of that article really chopped that information up into a way that makes it hard to understand exactly what happened and whats going to happen. I am SOOOOOOO DISGUSTED with Mississippi's "GOOD 'OLE BOY NETWORK".

God curse them all !
39 posted on 09/29/2014 5:57:08 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

If the GOP were smart it would run an urban black-power candidate, a Green, and a union hack in every election.


40 posted on 09/29/2014 6:54:44 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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