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Hospitals ask patients to pay upfront ("Unexpected" ACA Consequence)
CNN Money, via WCYB TV 5 ^ | September 29, 2014 | Tami Luhby

Posted on 09/29/2014 9:28:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Get ready to whip out your credit card before you are wheeled into the operating room or undergo an MRI.

Hospitals are increasingly asking patients to pay for procedures either upfront or before they are discharged. That's because Americans are shouldering a greater portion of their health care bills, and medical centers don't want to get stuck with patients that can't pay.

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The policies available on the Affordable Care Act exchanges are hastening this trend. Many enrollees are opting for the bronze and silver plans, which often carry deductibles upwards of $5,000 and $2,000, respectively.

"The bronze plans are scaring a lot of administrators because the patient liability is so large," said Debra Lowe, administrative director of revenue cycle at Ohio State University's Wexner Medical Center. "Patients are unaware they have this high deductible."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; affordablecareact; obamacare; unexpected
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Completely "unexpected," of course...
1 posted on 09/29/2014 9:28:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Only if you are white and/or upper middle class minorities. I have not seen an illegal yet that has been asked for insurance or payment.


2 posted on 09/29/2014 9:31:48 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Timber Rattler

Just wait until the next stage of implementation hits in January 2015 (after the elections, of course) and people get kicked out of their employer-provided programs and on to Obamacare. The nightmare is just getting started.


3 posted on 09/29/2014 9:32:52 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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4 posted on 09/29/2014 9:33:07 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Timber Rattler

To be clear: They never intended to “fix” healthcare.

They mean to destroy it.

Once it is dead, they assume the populace will clamor for a government solution, and they can clear the dead and bankrupt insurers out of the way and implement healthcare the way the statists want it implemented.

State (Federally)controlled Single Payer.

Never mind that before that happens, tens or hundreds of thousands of people will lose their jobs, hospitals are going to go bankrupt, and patient care is going to go right down the toilet.

To them, it is the price of making omelettes. The eggs that will have to be broken.


5 posted on 09/29/2014 9:34:45 AM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: rlmorel

When the amount witheld from employees paychecks each week for health insurance premiums exceeded their weekly federal witholding taxes, the plan was very clear from that point forward.


6 posted on 09/29/2014 9:37:38 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Right, unexpected. /s

They need to publish their prices then. Furthermore, adding to the gifts of obastard care... the insurance carriers are not negotiating or are prohibited from negotiating affordable in network contract rates. This used to be one reason for having insurance... you got better rates than if you paid out of pocket.

NOW, the carriers are incentivized to not negotiate rates at all since their profit margin is a PERCENTAGE of COST. The higher the cost the more money they retain. Pay attention to this people. It is brutal since the cost of procedures within the deductible and the uncovered portion of costs after the deductible BOTH go up. YOU ARE GETTING HAMMERED!


7 posted on 09/29/2014 9:39:48 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (I)
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To: Timber Rattler

SUFFER ME TO EMPHASIZE THIS POINT.

NOW, the carriers are incentivized to not negotiate rates at all since their profit margin is a PERCENTAGE of COST. The higher the cost the more money they retain. Pay attention to this people. It is brutal since the cost of procedures within the deductible and the uncovered portion of costs after the deductible BOTH go up. YOU ARE GETTING HAMMERED!


8 posted on 09/29/2014 9:40:54 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (I)
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To: Timber Rattler
"Affordable" care act. Another example rotten stinking blatant flat out lying by the left.


9 posted on 09/29/2014 9:44:51 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Better study up on shamanistic practices, reiki, acupuncture etc. traditional medical care is about to become a thing of the past except for the elite. Actually some of it won’t be missed but those who need trauma care are going to be in big trouble soon.


10 posted on 09/29/2014 9:45:50 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Dumbed down Americans in for the free stuff failed to learn the meaning of deductible and the math re $2500-$5000 deductibles.d

Oh well, if they are in line for hours or days for their newest smart phone, they can pay for their health care deductibles. Or can they?

11 posted on 09/29/2014 9:48:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Our Sunni White house thugs aren't upset with the be-headings. They are upset @ the massive outcry!)
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To: MeganC

Mine has already begun...............


12 posted on 09/29/2014 9:49:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yup. Daughter had to get her credit card out after an ER visit (before discharge) even though her very good medical plan is registered with the hospital. Seems some website was down.


13 posted on 09/29/2014 9:51:18 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Timber Rattler

People are unaware of the high deductible. These people are too damn stupid to understand how insurance works. They’re all just like the woman who said Obama was going to make her house payments and fill her tank with gas. She represents most of the people who voted for Obama.


14 posted on 09/29/2014 9:52:45 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Sequoyah101
NOW, the carriers are incentivized to not negotiate rates at all since their profit margin is a PERCENTAGE of COST.

That's the way government contracts are written. Hence, the $600 toilet seat.

I wonder when they are going to start demanding medical offices pay their clerical staff prevailing wage?

15 posted on 09/29/2014 9:53:09 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: MeganC

If the Republicans somehow manage not to screw up and take control of the Senate, this could be a godsend. Can you imagine the fun there could be if the Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate, and the country is about to riot because of ObamaCare?

Talk about never letting a crisis go to waste. The Republicans could hold hearings in the House and Senate 24/7 for the next 2years. They could make mincemeat out of ?Obama and the Democrats.


16 posted on 09/29/2014 9:53:21 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: rlmorel

Another thing about those stupid people who voted for Obama and would again, they don’t know the difference between health CARE and health INSURANCE.


17 posted on 09/29/2014 9:54:21 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Timber Rattler

i was required to pay my portion of a cardio scan a few years ago. when they asked me how much of the bill I wanted to pay I told them “all of it”. I left the hospital given potentially fatal (incorrect) advice about what activities I could safely engage in.

a couple of months later they sent me a bill requesting additional payment for the scan. I called them up and told them I had already paid for “all of it”. the finance lady shuffled some papers for a while then came back on line and told me to disregard the bill.


18 posted on 09/29/2014 9:55:12 AM PDT by utax
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To: Grampa Dave

Granpa, that picture is right on.

Funny how the more these people vote for free stuff the more expensive things get.


19 posted on 09/29/2014 9:56:51 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: MeganC

If the GOP wins the senate, the Dems will just tell low info voters that is the reason they are losing their insurance.


20 posted on 09/29/2014 9:57:58 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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