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What's Holding Back Electric-Car Sales?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | September 28, 2014 | Yuliya Chernova

Posted on 09/29/2014 7:29:45 AM PDT by LogicDesigner

Electric cars aren't selling nearly as well as many predicted. Why is that?

Research suggests a host of reasons—including a basic lack of familiarity, a high price tag, misconceptions about the cars—and ineffective government incentives.

Consider the lack of familiarity. In a survey by researchers from Indiana University and the University of Kansas, respondents couldn't correctly answer basic factual questions about plug-in electric vehicles more than 60% of the time. Some 75% of wrong answers underestimated the beneficial aspects of the vehicles.

The survey, the most exhaustive on consumer perceptions of electric cars in recent years, was published in the journal Energy Policy last year, and was based on field work conducted in several U.S. cities in 2011.

Key Differences

Many respondents didn't realize that all-electric cars require less maintenance than gasoline-powered cars. Oil changes aren't necessary, for example, and there are fewer breakable parts. The study also found that people often underestimated the fuel savings electric cars offer.

"The lack of accurate information about electric vehicles certainly [has] contributed to their small adoption," says Rachel Krause, an assistant professor in the School of Public Affairs and Administration at the University of Kansas, and a co-author of the study.

Road Test: Check your knowledge of electric vehicles.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: efv; electriccar; electriccars; electricity; energy
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To: LogicDesigner

I wish that more people realized that an electric car will likely NOT help them fight the dreaded global warming.

Why?

Because the electricity to recharge the batteries in an electric car, in many places, comes from coal fired power plants.

While the car itself is pollution free, if the energy needed to charge it up comes from a fossil fuel operated power plant, a good liberal has NOT done anything to save us from global warming and reduce greenhouse gases.

Actually, if we suddenly had millions of electric cars on the road, we would find ourselves far short of needed electric generating capacity.

The capacity which Obama wants to reduce in his zeal to fight global warming and take allegedly gross polluting power plants off line.

Liberals should pick another vehicle besides electric cars to make their case of what we can do to reduce greenhouse gases.


21 posted on 09/29/2014 7:41:06 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: LogicDesigner

Too expensive. And the car companies lie. They roll in mileage from gas and electric to give a higher MPG rating. Not withstanding of course is the lousy gas mileage when on the gas engine and replacing the batteries every three years or so and recharge stations are practically none existent and in the winter battery life is much lower and you go what, 40 miles on a charge and .....


22 posted on 09/29/2014 7:41:41 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: thackney

and ineffective government incentives.


what is holding the electric car back? who would have guessed?

Reminds me of the old story. Pet Food company has it’s annual meeting and the President gets up. We have the most modern manufacturing plants, we have the best research staff of anyone on the planet, we hire and train the best salesmen, NOW WHY AREN’T WE SELLING ANY DOG FOOD?

An old timer stand up in the back and says with a southern drawl, “The doooooooooooooooogs don’t like it.”


23 posted on 09/29/2014 7:42:23 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (The Bible doesn't say what I think it says and it says a lot of things I didn't know..........)
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To: rktman; LogicDesigner

The way I understand it the negative impact on the environment by producing toxic waste to mfg the darned things far outweighs any positive impact to help the environment.


24 posted on 09/29/2014 7:42:49 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: LogicDesigner
I've got a Samsung cell phone that suddenly loses power and shuts off...even though it shows that it 85% charged.

Can you imagine driving down the highway when suddenly your car shuts down, although the battery shows that it's almost fully charged?

No thanks. An internal combustion engine is a bit more reliable.

25 posted on 09/29/2014 7:44:01 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: LogicDesigner

“Research suggests a host of reasons—including a basic lack of familiarity, a high price tag, misconceptions about the cars—and ineffective government incentives. “

Yeah, that’s it.


26 posted on 09/29/2014 7:44:15 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: LogicDesigner
The fact that the entire movement is a HOAX?


27 posted on 09/29/2014 7:44:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (We can make it work with only one square per restroom visit -- Sheryl Crow)
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To: LogicDesigner
What's Holding Back Electric-Car Sales?

Maybe it's the fact that they

  1. have too short a range
  2. take too long to recharge
  3. Have very few places where you can recharge them
  4. are useless for anything but short trips with long charging intervals inbetween
  5. Cost too much
  6. provide the answer for which there is no question
Maybe the consumers who have brains don't want them and the consumers who lack brains are too broke from squandering all of their money on beer, cigarettes, scratch off lotto tickets, and dope (ie 0bama voters) to afford them.
28 posted on 09/29/2014 7:45:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: LogicDesigner

They neglected to mention that you might BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN while charging your electric roller skate.


29 posted on 09/29/2014 7:45:58 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Usagi_yo
“1. High prices.
2. The misconceptions about the car are generally higher expectations that what can be delivered
3. Finally, the law of thermodynamics may figure in here for the smarter people in that you can’t get something for nothing, or even break even. This means that the same energy (more actually) used to charge the car up is the equivalent of the gasoline that would have been used.”

1. It depends on your driving habits. You can pay off the initial price premium with reduced fuel and maintenance costs. Electric companies in some places offer discounted or even free nighttime charging to make it even easier.

2. Actually a lot of people don't realize that electric cars have better acceleration at city driving speeds. They are pretty fun to drive.

3. A gasoline engine is only about 20% to 30% efficient. Most of the energy is wasted as heat. Whereas an electric motor is over 90% efficient.

30 posted on 09/29/2014 7:46:04 AM PDT by LogicDesigner
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To: thackney

Man, is that useless.


31 posted on 09/29/2014 7:46:08 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: V_TWIN
You have, perhaps without realizing it, touched upon the REAL idiocy of the AGW (anthropogenic global warming). The obsession with this fake issue is completely diverting public awareness from the real poisoning of the environment which may already be beyond reversal in our lifetime.

The same vermin oligarchs who are pushing this faux issue so they can profit bigtime from collecting 'carbon credits' are enabling the ultimate demise of the major lifeforms on the planet by heightening the poisoning of the environment in order to keep their owned industries running at capacity.

I suppose the global oligarchs will sell fresh water when they have poisoned the rivers and lakes sufficiently ... they always have a plan to profit from their caused disasters.

32 posted on 09/29/2014 7:47:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: LogicDesigner
i'll go out on a limb and take a super wild azz guess here and say NOBODY WANTS THE DAMN THINGS!!!

but i may be wrong...

33 posted on 09/29/2014 7:48:33 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Right Brother

So true, plus in a small town like ours we can save between 10% to 40% by shopping in Eugene at an Asian market (40%) and Trader Joe’s (10%). All we can get here at less cost are vegetables. Of course the Asian market is 140 miles round trip. My concern is that under Elisabeth Warren, electric cars will be mandatory for families.


34 posted on 09/29/2014 7:49:02 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: LogicDesigner
1. Too short of range.
2. Heating in the winter shortens the range further.
3. Further reduced range as battery life is used, just like your laptop or phone battery doesn't last as long after a couple of years as at the beginning.
4. Limited recharge locations and long charge time.
5. High battery replacement cost.

Imagine a gasoline powered car with a three gallon tank which gradually shrank over the years, could only be refilled at your home or a few other select places, took hours to refill and needed a $10,000 tank replacement after five to seven years.

The heater might be fixed with a heat pump system rather than the less efficient resistive heater.

Until those are fixed, electric cars will be efficient commuter vehicles for those with short commutes, but will in general be a second car for people who can afford them.

35 posted on 09/29/2014 7:49:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: LogicDesigner

10 other stupid hippie questions (whiny voice)(inferred stupid statements as prefaces not included):

1) Why can’t everyone in the world just be friends?

2) Why do we have nuclear weapons?

3) Why do we use any fossil fuels at all?

4) Why do people belong to religions?

5) Why should some people have more money than other people?

6) Why doesn’t everybody eat “organic” food, not that junk that’s full of chemicals and molecules and atoms and stuff?

7) Why do we even have police and prisons and an army?

8) Why do people want to eat meat instead of tofu?

9) Why shouldn’t we outlaw all guns?

10) Why can’t anybody and anybody or anything get married if they want to?


36 posted on 09/29/2014 7:49:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: LogicDesigner
Whereas an electric motor is over 90% efficient.

But you are ignoring how the electricity gets to the motor. Go through the variable speed drive, inverter, battery, charger, local transformer, distribution lines, substation, transmission lines, step-up transformer, generator, steam turbine, boiler and furnace. Then we can have a discussion of efficiency.

37 posted on 09/29/2014 7:51:34 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: LogicDesigner
...and ineffective government incentives...

Must have free cars for all entitled people.

38 posted on 09/29/2014 7:52:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: LogicDesigner

I leased a Leaf on Saturday. The dealer had sold/leased 24 of them before I got there.

This technology isn’t going away....but hey....flame away if you’d like. I’m paying ZERO for gas now, and charging for free at work...


39 posted on 09/29/2014 7:53:07 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: LogicDesigner

What is the price of a new battery? And what will we do with the old ones?


40 posted on 09/29/2014 7:54:21 AM PDT by txrefugee
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