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GOP cautions that Senate control would have limits
Associated Press ^ | Sep 28, 2014 1:33 PM EDT | Charles Babington

Posted on 09/28/2014 1:45:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai

How much difference will it make if Republicans win the Senate majority on Nov. 4, joining the GOP-run House against a Democratic White House?

Congress’ persistent gridlock is due largely, but not entirely, to the current power split in the two chambers. But even if Republicans add Senate control to their safe House majority, big legislative roadblocks will remain.

President Barack Obama still can veto legislation.

Should Democrats lose six or more Senate seats, ceding the majority, they can use the power of the filibuster to thwart dozens of GOP initiatives. Republicans have employed this tactic from the minority side. …

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To: Olog-hai
Sorry . . . the “power of the filibuster” was wiped out by Dingy Harry.

Only for non-SCOTUS confirmations.

The legislative filibuster is still intact.

-PJ

81 posted on 09/28/2014 3:24:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

A GOP-e senate would just be more of the same flaccid BS. I bet the fools would “power share” again. What complete idiots.


82 posted on 09/28/2014 3:25:29 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: what's up; EricT.
>>They didn’t do anything of lasting value back then, either
>
>Bush tax cuts?

One huge problem with the tax cuts is that they were not due to reform, they were essentially the government "letting slide" a portion of the tax.
This mentality is eerily close to that that considers all money [wealth] to be property of the government and you have the privileged of using it; also note that because the tax system wasn't changed they can at-will change it back — it is a gift.

>Successful funding for WOT to keep us on offense?

The War on Terror is terrible for the military; here's why: There is no Victory Condition.
It is, however, a masterful work of propaganda — who wants to sit back when there's terrorism going on?

>Partial birth abortion ban?

IIUC, considering that all they have to do is not wait until the kid's being born to comply with it… yes.
Little more than feel good legislation; that there was no further push for more restrictions on abortions you can't claim it was incrementalism.

>No value?

The GOP is all talk and no action; so, no, they are of no value.

83 posted on 09/28/2014 3:31:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: hal ogen
It's like how I posted last Sunday. The current Republican elders need their "wander the desert" period.


It happens naturally because people age and die.

We talk about Reagan, but there was also Tip O'Neill, Tom Foley, Bob Michel, Trent Lott, Jim Wright, etc.

Those people didn't talk of hate, enemies, crushing, etc. They fought hard for their positions, but they didn't make it a blood sport.

Take no prisoners politics didn't begin until the Clinton administration, and the take-downs of Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay, followed by the Jim Jeffords party switch and Trent Lott's power sharing offer. I hope that Lott learned his lesson after he was driven out of the Senate after his trumped up comments about Strom Thurmon.

I hope that the entire GOP caucus learned the lesson of Trent Lott, that you cannot make good-faith gestures to today's Democrats in the expectation of receiving in-kind consideration in return.

Today's Republicans think they can mitigate Democrat intransigence. They can't. If they won't see the light, then they must go. If not sooner, time will take care of it later.

The bell will toll for 72 year old McConnell, 80 year old Hatch, 78 year old McCain, 81 year old Grassley, 78 year old Roberts, 79 year old Imhofe, 74 year old Alexander, 70 year old Enzi.


We don't have to wait 40 years... another 10 will do.

The trouble is getting the elders to step aside now so they can be seen as king-makers, grooming the next generation, instead of bitter-clingers holding onto their seats until they die and leaving the next generation to scramble for the pieces left behind.

-PJ

84 posted on 09/28/2014 3:34:58 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Olog-hai
President Barack Obama still can veto legislation.

He can't appropriate money though. Not legally anyway.

85 posted on 09/28/2014 3:36:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Olog-hai

the GOPe will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory


86 posted on 09/28/2014 3:40:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The Republican quotes were few, but they were not bad.

I guess you didn't see Boehner on This Week today, wanting to pass immigration reform after the election, before the new Senate or Congress is seated.

For an encore he is trying to persuade Jeb to run.

87 posted on 09/28/2014 3:41:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Dave W; Maceman; Olog-hai
You know, it's funny that people who refuse to vote "against someone" are called purists; as if that's at all as comparable to desiring a candidate you can vote for.

In my case the requirements are very few: honor and follow the Constitution, destroy (clean out) corruption, and push for responsible finances.
Is that too much for a candidate? Does that make me a purist?

88 posted on 09/28/2014 3:44:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Cinnamontea
and you're hundreds of miles closer to New York?

Doesn't matter how close you get if there is a toll both that you can't afford, keeping you out.

89 posted on 09/28/2014 3:44:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Olog-hai

not a great deal of difference.

the libtard rinos there will be the holdouts and gum up the works. to help their friends across the aisle.


90 posted on 09/28/2014 3:45:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Even if we ask you, and then you bust your butts electing us, we’re not going to do jack____, that is, anymore than we do now. Unless it busts your chops. That’s all we can promise.”
The GOP-e


91 posted on 09/28/2014 3:46:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Exactly. The 14 Gangsters will raise their clog up the senates heads
again. It’s only only purpose is to clog up anything conservative.


92 posted on 09/28/2014 3:48:30 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: jazusamo

Ruth Bader Ginsburg comes to mind, courtesy of Orin Hatch and the GOPe. Some of us remember the power sharing agreement that led to Jumping Jim the GOPe traitor.


93 posted on 09/28/2014 3:55:15 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I read the article. Now for the reality. It would take winning at least 65 seats in the senate for the GOP to be effective again if non of the GOP-E "Traitors" are not voted out. Yes a majority is 51. However there are about dozen Horses Butt Liberal GOP-E Senators who vote after vote when issues matter reach across to their "friends" across the aisle and make it happen for them. The 2000-2006 GOP majority did more damage and increased the size of government well beyond what Ted Kennedy could accomplish in decades. Name me the last decent GOP Senate Majority Leader or GOP Minority Leader. You likely have to go back into the 1980's.

They had best start pulling their GOP-E bought and paid for by lobbyist heads out of their arses and get it together. IF the GOP takes the senate look for about one of four persons to be picked as SML, McConnell, Alexander, Corker, Cantor, etc who have long standing records of doing DEM's dirty deeds for them. That is the reality.

It's just like in the house we have Peolsi LITE meaning the Liberal One acting incompetent Boehner whom BTW was the one who engineered the GOP-E takeover of the party back in about 1996-97. He's a snake in the grass. His bungling and acting defeated is deliberate.

Boehner Speaker of the House and his GOP-E Oligarchic just like over a dozen GOP-E in the senate need to be shown the door. They make opposition to the Liberal agenda impossible. Ironically the one named in your tagline is a huge player in keeping such in office. It seems it's either His picks by his donors or the party surrenders to the DEMs by not supporting Conservatives who defeat GOP-E. This has been a ongoing issue and Rove is usually in the thick of it.

94 posted on 09/28/2014 4:07:13 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: EricT.

Are the gdpe and their “conservative” enablers and apologist admitting to the voters, don’t expect them to do much in stopping Obama if they should stumble into taking the senate? Say it ain’t so!


95 posted on 09/28/2014 4:21:16 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Olog-hai
Sorry . . . the “power of the filibuster” was wiped out by Dingy Harry.

Only for non-Supreme Court appointments. Everything else can be filibustered.

96 posted on 09/28/2014 4:30:09 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Lurker
McConnel will restore it in the interest of fairness.

Even before the next Senate session. If the R's win by any appreciable margin, be sure that the first order of business in the lame duck Senate will be to restore the previous majority rules.

97 posted on 09/28/2014 4:40:26 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Very funny. I actually laughed out loud. I didn't want to abbreviate it as LOL because I wanted you to know I actually did laugh out loud for quite a while.

Well. Your "requirements" are so general almost anyone can win your vote, so I have to assume you voted for Obama in 2008. After all, he was all about following the law, being transparent and cutting our deficit in half. He came across as responsible, an expert on the constitution since he was a constitutional law professor (to this day, I get responses from two different folks, "Well, it must be OK since Obama taught the constitution.")

Try again.

98 posted on 09/28/2014 4:40:35 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Jane Long
AP at it, again. Don’t fall for it, folks.

Agree. I also think that's why we're seeing all sorts of Romney 2016/Jeb Bush 2016 stories coming out of the woodwork.

Get Conservatives agitated, incentivize them to stay home.
99 posted on 09/28/2014 4:44:57 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Dave W
Well. Your "requirements" are so general almost anyone can win your vote, so I have to assume you voted for Obama in 2008.

Does he honor the Constitution? Does he espouse financial responsibility and accountability?
No.

But it's funny you bring 2008 up; to my shame I voted for McCain — at the time, though, I promised myself it would be the last time I ever "voted against" somebody. And you know what? In 2012 that promise kept me from pulling the lever for Romney (who is Obama's political clone).

After all, he was all about following the law, being transparent and cutting our deficit in half. He came across as responsible, an expert on the constitution since he was a constitutional law professor (to this day, I get responses from two different folks, "Well, it must be OK since Obama taught the constitution.")

Hey, given that (and what I now know about McCain) voting Obama in 2008 doesn't sound like too bad a deal. Sure, people were suckered, but [in hindsight] it's better than McCain's projected image.

Try again.

You know, I don't have to.
You're the one saying that people are purists for not voting for the lesser of two evils (still an evil) — and then you dismiss my [reasonable] requirements as too general.

100 posted on 09/28/2014 4:52:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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