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Chinese father chops up daughter for being a family disappointment: police
New York Daily News ^ | September 25, 2014 | Deborah Hastings

Posted on 09/27/2014 9:32:47 PM PDT by KingofZion

For letting down her family's honor, a 12-year-old girl in China was killed and cut into pieces by her father, who then took the grisly pieces across the street to a public bathroom and dumped them in a public bathroom, police said.

The dad in Wenzhou City said he strangled his daughter because she was doing poorly at school, according to authorities, Britain's Daily Mirror reported.

"Neighbors we spoke to said he hadn't bothered to look for her and seemed quite happy she was gone," a police spokesman said.

Zhang Li, 46, said the girl, Sutain, had let down her family by failing to be a good daughter, the paper said.

He reported her missing under pressure from his wife, police said.

"We were suspicious because he seemed more angry than upset,' the spokesman said.

Three days later, a maintenance worker reported to police he had found a severed hand in a public toilet.

The father now faces life in prison.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Name another society that claimed to be following the laws of God, who, as a society, accepted sex as a recreational activity, the majority of whom, in childbearing years, practiced pharmaceutical, surgical birth control, routinely resorting to abortion, and who accepted sex outside of marriage as completely acceptable


61 posted on 09/28/2014 10:41:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Good question. What is your answer?


62 posted on 09/28/2014 10:44:39 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Just mentioning the truths of what goes on incurs such wrath and mob rule that it’s not possible to get to a reasonable discussion on this

I am not being disingenuous

Do you have any clue the kinds of numbers you are talking about?

People think that we, as a country, can oversee 1.3 million abortions yearly in this country and that we don’t have to look at the cause and effect

You don’t think it is a unique mentality in contemporary society to have an acceptable killing of 54 million innocents?


63 posted on 09/28/2014 10:51:22 PM PDT by stanne
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To: RedHeeler

My answer is none. What’s yours?


64 posted on 09/28/2014 10:53:39 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

None. The nature of culture, is a disparate ego- always self absorbed.


65 posted on 09/28/2014 11:13:31 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

No idea.

Culture is always self absorbed?

People on this forum will defend birth control until they are babbling about nothing.


66 posted on 09/28/2014 11:20:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Yes, any culture is fully self-absorbed. Usually, the disparity, balances the high and low. Yet, that momentum always yields, to exterior fear. It is the basis of War.


67 posted on 09/28/2014 11:40:17 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

disparity? between what? the fully self absorbed and the fully self absorbed?

Stop.


68 posted on 09/28/2014 11:49:49 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Good.


69 posted on 09/29/2014 12:01:12 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

I am not going to read your mail note to me. I am sure it’s something abusive, based on your tone on the thread, otherwise you’d post it here


70 posted on 09/29/2014 1:28:28 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I’m not wasting my time reading your source material. You said birth control is abortion. Condoms are birth control. Therefore, by your own words, condoms are abortion. That’s what you said. You can support that or retract that. You cannot pose “what ifs” and claim they are a certainty. Any “what if” regarding the failure of a condom applies equally (and equally invalidly) to a failure of the rhythm method. Your suggestion that a condom failure inevitably leads to a abortion relies upon facts not in evidence.

You have backed yourself into a logical corner and are now struggling, lamely, to get out of this corner. You can’t because you’re wrong.


71 posted on 09/29/2014 3:39:48 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fictional)
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To: muir_redwoods

I am not struggling at all

1. The mentality of birth control leads to abortion. They both started at the same time because they go together

2 it is not rhythm method. You can call it that but it isn’t that

And you can believe what I say or or not. Makes no difference

It just proves the pint. That when people see faced with truth about birth control and abortion they can’t listen.

And it is what elects democrats. It is powerful. The hold it has on people


72 posted on 09/29/2014 4:52:50 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

You are deeply delusional. I have pointed out your obvious logical errors and you cannot or will not admit to them. You need professional help or you simply need to grow up. You’re behaving like a spoiled child. Childish personalities enjoy some satisfaction having the last word, regardless of how stupid those words are. I’ve wasted enough time with you so, as the child in this discussion, you can have the last word.


73 posted on 09/29/2014 5:01:46 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fictional)
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To: exDemMom
Definitions of words from Decode pro-abortion talking points with the Choicespeak-to-English Dictionary

http://liveactionnews.org/decode-pro-abortion-talking-points-with-the-choicespeak-to-english-dictionary-part-1/

Pregnancy—In an effort to sow confusion and ambiguity about the abortifacient capacity of certain birth control methods, pro-aborts have taken to arguing that “pregnant” only means carrying an embryo that has successfully implanted in the uterus, and that therefore anything that prevents implantation merely “prevents pregnancy” instead of “causes an abortion.” Leaving aside the fact that this doesn’t change the key issue (whether the embryo dies as a result), they’re short on substance here too.

James Agresti quotes five medical texts declaring that pregnancy begins with fertilization, Merriam-Webster simply defines pregnancy as “the condition of a woman or female animal that is going to have a baby or babies,” and 2011 survey of over a thousand OB/GYNs found 57% agreeing that pregnancy begins at conception, while only 28% said implantation—making their lectures on “medical facts” little more than wishful thinking.

74 posted on 09/29/2014 8:24:56 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

In other words, you are trying to convince me that there is no moral or functional equivalence between preventing pregnancy or terminating it before birth.

That is the exact same message that Planned Parenthood told me in high school.

How in the world can you convince a young pro-abortion woman that your message is somehow superior to Planned Parenthood’s message?

I honestly don’t care what a young couple (married or not) does. But I do care, a lot, if the young couple fails to take any measures to prevent pregnancy, and instead kills one or more of their children. Destroying life is wrong. Preventing life is no big deal.


75 posted on 09/29/2014 7:26:03 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
There no moral difference between chemical and mechanical (consoms and inserts and such) birth control and abortion. The Church sponsors a natural family planning method that many folks like to sneer at but it has a very high success rate. If you are averse to having children because of your busy schedule then you probably do not have the proper attitude to have children at all. They should not be seen as fashionable accessories. That is too Hollywood.
If you wish to commit murder, there is no moral difference between cyanide and strangulation.

At base it is all a matter of convenience and belief that life is all about "me."

76 posted on 09/29/2014 9:10:03 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: exDemMom

One way or another they are killing their children. It doesn’t really matter at what stage they accomplish the deed.


77 posted on 09/29/2014 9:11:31 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: stanne

You are right. Stay away.


78 posted on 09/29/2014 10:24:49 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: stanne
Name another society that claimed to be following the laws of God, who, as a society, accepted sex as a recreational activity, the majority of whom, in childbearing years, practiced pharmaceutical, surgical birth control, routinely resorting to abortion, and who accepted sex outside of marriage as completely acceptable

The problem, I think, is that you are describing a theocracy with the words, "following the laws of God."

The theocrats in Tehran, also, believe that they are "following the laws of God [or 'Allah']."

In fact, so, presumably, do the terrorists who comprise ISIS.

One further note: If you sincerely believe that sex should be engaged in entirely for procreation, what would you say to infertile couples? Or to married women who are beyond menopause, and are, therefore, no longer able to bear children?

79 posted on 09/29/2014 10:48:47 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Sex is for marriage with an openness to conceive

If you disagree go ahead. Who’s stopping you?

You might want to observe the venom that comes from those trying to rationalize birth control. The anger is remarkable

Here you are comparing the religion founded by Jesus to Isis for the sake of spewing pro birth control at me

Ok you like birth control. I get it


80 posted on 09/29/2014 11:11:10 PM PDT by stanne
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