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Ultra-Orthodox Jews cause chaos on flight to Israel
http://www.telegraph.co.uk ^ | 09/25/2014 | By David Millward

Posted on 09/25/2014 11:57:16 AM PDT by redreno

An El-Al flight from New York to Tel Aviv was turned into an “11-hour nightmare” after hundreds of ultra-Orthodox Jewish passengers refused to sit next to women.

According to those on board the flight descended into chaos because of their demands.

The flight was full with Israelis, secular, orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jews – known as Haredim – flying home to celebrate Rosh Hashanah.

Even though the passengers had been pre-assigned seats before boarding, the ultra-Orthodox Jews refused to accept the arrangements because their beliefs required that men and women were segregated

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: elal; hebrew; israel; jewish; orthodox
Flight delayed for hours because of demand to segregate men and women
1 posted on 09/25/2014 11:57:16 AM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

What is the big deal? Just ask the Jewish men to sit together. Seat assignment isn’t THAT big of a deal.


2 posted on 09/25/2014 11:59:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
What is the big deal? Just ask the Jewish men to sit together. Seat assignment isn’t THAT big of a deal.Right!
3 posted on 09/25/2014 12:01:35 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: redreno

oy mine velkh a bintl fun idiots!


4 posted on 09/25/2014 12:07:08 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: redreno
Maybe they should have flown on Air Israel instead.


5 posted on 09/25/2014 12:11:09 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: redreno

Maybe they should make the women ride in the back of the plane?


6 posted on 09/25/2014 12:12:30 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: redreno

Is this the first time any of these folks had flown? Seems to me that someone would have thought of this before getting on the plane. Perhaps the flights were booked as a group and whoever arranged the trip dropped the ball?


7 posted on 09/25/2014 12:13:34 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: redreno

Headline: El-Al surprised to learn that Orthodox Jews don’t sit next to women.


8 posted on 09/25/2014 12:16:13 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: redreno

I can’t believe that the guys who run El-Al flights don’t already know this. Even if they weren’t told.

And even if they screwed up and miss-assigned the seats, it should not have been a problem to change them and fix it, without making a big fuss.


9 posted on 09/25/2014 12:18:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AppyPappy

I had just come off deployment & wore my uniform into church. That seemed to be the reason this good-looking chick sat down next to me and crossed her legs. I looked up to heaven & prayed,

“Lord, I thank Thee for granting Thy humble servant this vision of some of the beautiful things which Thou hast made!”


10 posted on 09/25/2014 12:27:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Cicero
And even if they screwed up and miss-assigned the seats, it should not have been a problem to change them and fix it, without making a big fuss.

Don't know about you but I just got back from a trans-Atlantic trip and I paid a premium for a particular seat months in advance. If, without asking and explaining, someone in the airline decides differently, I should be offered alternatives.

Perhaps El Al should pre-identify its passengers (very wry smile as that is a specialty of theirs and has been for years!)

11 posted on 09/25/2014 12:30:45 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Maybe they should make the women ride in the back of the plane?

Paging Ms Parksovsky, Rosa Parksovsky! Will Rosa Parksovsky please pickup the white courtesy phone in the lobby?

12 posted on 09/25/2014 12:34:15 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: redreno

On NYC bus routes through Ultra-Orthodox areas of Brooklyn there was de facto sex segregation. Women were forced to the back.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/bloomberg-responds-to-ort_n_1022174.html


13 posted on 09/25/2014 12:38:39 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: SES1066

Yeah. Sounds to me as if they screwed up and hired or promoted the wrong guy. This is not like them. And they also have a reputation as being one of the only airlines that efficiently weeds out terrorists. Let’s hope they don’t screw up that!


14 posted on 09/25/2014 12:41:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AppyPappy

Orthodox Jews do, it’s the ULTRAs that don’t?................


15 posted on 09/25/2014 12:52:25 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: elcid1970

Amen!


16 posted on 09/25/2014 1:15:06 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: redreno

“Attention, please. If those of you unhappy with you current seat assignment would please disembark, we will accommodate your seating preferences on a future flight. Should you refuse to disembark, a contingent of IDF troops is making its way down the boarding ramp, and they will be glad to assist you with disembarkation.”


17 posted on 09/25/2014 1:20:47 PM PDT by moovova
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To: redreno

You don’t want to sit next to a woman? There’s the door...


18 posted on 09/25/2014 1:30:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: redreno

This story is fishy... I fly El Al all the time and have never seen this. Must be a bizarre group...


19 posted on 09/25/2014 5:25:02 PM PDT by golux
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