Posted on 09/24/2014 6:44:53 AM PDT by RBW in PA
A law firm is soliciting residents in Pike and Monroe counties who have been affected by police activity related to the manhunt for Eric Frein, the suspect in the Sept. 12 Pennsylvania State Police ambush that left one trooper dead and wounded another.
Joshua Prince, of the Bechtelsville, Pa.-based Prince Law Offices, posted a message on the firm's website Monday night encouraging residents to contact the firm if they believe their rights have been violated by police during the search for Frein, who is sought in the shooting outside the state police Blooming Grove barracks in Pike County.
"If you are a resident of Pike or Monroe County and had your rights violated by the (Pennsylvania State Police), either by unlawfully evicting you from your home or searching your vehicle without a warrant, please contact us to discuss your legal options," the message says.
Prince, in his message, cites media reports of police checking vehicles without warrants or probable cause and not allowing residents to return to their homes during periods of the search.
Officials opened temporary shelters for displaced residents last week in Barrett Township, Monroe County, and Price Township, Pike County, as police activity intensified during the search for Frein.
Other measures have also been taken to protect residents during the manhunt. There have been road closures, schools have shuttered and sporting events have been postponed as police try to track down Frein, a survivalist whom authorities considered armed and extremely dangerous.
A Pennsylvania State Police spokesman on Tuesday afternoon said in an email that state police are aware of the firm's post.
"During our search operations in the area, we have been diligent in respecting the rights of the public while working hard to keep both residents and law enforcement safe," Trooper Adam Reed said.
Efforts to reach Prince on Tuesday afternoon were unsuccessful. Messages left at the firm were not immediately returned.
Frein, who has been placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted list, remained on the lam Tuesday afternoon, 11 days after the ambush.
Do you live there? This isn’t like a city where folks are used to nutjobs. Again, worry about your own neighborhood, these people have enough to deal with. You aren’t living it, they are. Just what they need are armchair quarter backs and sleazy lawyers, NOT!
LOL...youre funny!! Get over yourself already....but I will say your entertainment value is high!! :) Hyperventilate much?
IMHO, the jury's still out on Frein's motivation. From what I read, PA police do quite a bit to enrage law-abiding public.
Everyone has a breaking point. Some have other motivations. From one perspective those that history describe as 'patriots' are 'terrorists' by modern bureaucratic definition.
Regardless, trampling innocent residents' rights is unforgivable and, in fact, deserving of retribution (the definition of which is personal to those offended and the action taken unique to their willingness to fight for their rights). An 'open investigation' is not license to ignore Constitutional Rights, but the Declaration of Independence clearly outlines the peoples' right/duty to react in the face of that offense. Sam Adams wrote of this under a false name years before that was penned to the Declaration:
The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence.
It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
Of the latter we are in most danger at present: Let us therefore be aware of it. Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity; and resolve to maintain the rights bequeath’d to us from the former, for the sake of the latter.
— Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, which is the wish of our enemies, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance.
Let us remember that “if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.” It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
Samuel Adams
[Samuel Adams, Essay, written under the pseudonym “Candidus,” in The Boston Gazette (14 October 1771), later published in The Life and Public Services of Samuel Adams (1865) by William Vincent Wells, p. 425]
Interesting. Insults are the last refuge.......
From your post #11 which started this chain: "If this guy was hiding in your wife/mother/sister/daughter’s house/vehicle
But I wasnt...you are funny...go with it and be happy
With the cop-haters on FR, the cops just can't win.
I am neither a cop hater nor a boot licker. I see each incident as an individual act and judge it as such. NYC isn't Canadensis nor is Canadensis like Chicago.
Have a blessed day.
No, no, I find no humor in their situation. Its you I find funny. You really do need to read whats written though.
It's not probable cause as against the innocent people whose person or property has been searched without a warrant or some exigent circumstance such as hot pursuit. Indeed, by your argument, the Boston Police had every right to stop, detain, and search innocent people and invade their homes without a warrant in searching for the Boston Marathon bombers. By your argument the 4th Amendment is meaningless as long as cops are looking for a killer.
IMHO, the jury’s still out on Frein’s motivation. From what I read, PA police do quite a bit to enrage law-abiding public.
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So in your extensive research about the PA police, can you share your findings that relate to Frein specifically, such that you would hold out the possibility that his motivations are pure and appropriate? Or that the specific policemen that he shot were in some way deserving of being shot?
Certainly you’d agree that a sane person would exact their retribution on those that have done him wrong, right? You certainly cannot be justifying the cold blooded murder of the cop and the grave wounding of the other based on some nebulous notion that he reached his breaking point, right?
Call him a common criminal, call him a terrorist. don’t care.
If he doesn’t get called home to his Lord, I sure hope he gets called by a number for the remainder of his life on this planet.
My next line, which you ignored, addresses your seemingly-biased query:
Everyone has a breaking point. Some have other motivations. From one perspective those that history describe as 'patriots' are 'terrorists' by modern bureaucratic definition. Regardless, trampling innocent residents' rights is unforgivable and, in fact, deserving of retribution (the definition of which is personal to those offended and the action taken unique to their willingness to fight for their rights).
I will not address your ridiculous query regarding 'justification'.
However, HAD YOU read the rest of my comment, apropos to my comment above about 'personal to those offended' is Samuel Adams' quote.
If you have a differing opinion, I encourage that. However, attacking me for mine as a result of bias where all differing views offend you...well, perhaps you should literally refer to your own 'About' page...
I prefer to keep an open mind, particularly in an environment when those 'public servants' entrusted to 'serve/protect/defend Constitution/uphold Law' increasingly perform that which you mockingly ask of me...
My tone was intentional, and it was less attacking than it was mocking.
Your statement “[snip] the jury’s still out on Frein’s motivation”, followed by “From what I read, PA police do quite a bit to enrage law-abiding public” seems to suggest that you believe that there is a possibility that Frein’s actions were justifiable. That’s what ‘the jury’s out’ means. He might be guilty, he might not.
Your comment about breaking point seemed to underscore that he might have had a legitimate cause to hit that breaking point, for which the murder and grave wounding of another cop was justifiable.
Under no circumstances (IMHO) is hiding in the woods and shooting people a legitimate response. That’s the behavior of the Washington DC snipers a number of years ago. Sorry.
If I have misread, I’ll own that.
But common sense has to rule here.
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I would think the Bill of Rights would reign.....
Don't be. This always happens when a redneck confuses himself with a conservative.
And that's your excuse for pissing on the Constitution: a frightened girl?
You have brass calling someone ELSE an idiot!
We're supposed to piss away our rights so your buddy's daughter feels comfy?
How about you put your money where your mouth is; YOU go protect her, and keep your hands off my rights!
Irrelevant. If you could prove to me the SWAT concept stayed in California, you might have a leg to stand on. As it is, you're just trying to save face.
“with the cop-haters on FR, the cops just can’t win.”
Exactly. I appreciate your efforts to get the truth out there but it is useless debating with Cop Conspiracy Kiddies because they don’t WANT the truth. They have their preferred agenda and will fight like crazy to pursue that focus even when facts dispute their case, just like left-wing Global Warming lunatics.
The troopers aren’t searching houses and didn’t even close the schools, the school officials decided to do that. The troopers and local deputies have only been closing certain roads from time to time, and even then have been pulling critical personnel to arrange escorts through the blocks if residents have an emergency or need meds. The “shelter in place” is a safety advisory and not any kind of martial law as residents have not been arrested when they haven’t followed it. The only resident I heard of getting cuffed was one who deliberately snuck through a road-block area. They tackled him and cuffed him until they were able to check his identity and then let him go.
But don’t bother arguing with the fools who want to believe that the Poconos are the new Iron Curtain, they get nasty when you talk facts.
That was a nice gray Nissan truck before the police shot it up.
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