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3 Mistakes Hannah Graham Made
Townhall ^ | Sep 24, 2014 | Doug Giles

Posted on 09/24/2014 6:17:26 AM PDT by walford

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To: BunnySlippers

I didn’t know that a perp has been identified.

Even the author didn’t have the courage to include the information on the list.

A local talk show host talked about the FBI stats regarding Black males. When adjusted for population, the average assault victim was 200 times more likely to have been assaulted by a Black male than a White male.


21 posted on 09/24/2014 7:10:14 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: walford; Dubya-M-Dees

People just don’t spend years learning a discipline because because some guy gave them advice, or else we would all be into martial arts, and would know how to play the piano, and would know how to speak that foreign language we all keep meaning to learn “someday”.

It’s easier for a teen girl to just learn some eternal facts of life about how to behave, and when, and where not to be, and in what condition.


22 posted on 09/24/2014 7:12:40 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Balding_Eagle

Without dreadlocks he looks like the killer of one of the other girls.

23 posted on 09/24/2014 7:16:37 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: walford

Wish I’d had this book growing up. Going to buy it for my sons, who have daughters and wouldn’t think a nano-second about hurting a guy who hurts their daughter(s), but it contains some common sense stuff that makes sense when making the girls understand (besides the “I said so” part).

My husband believes (I agree) every girl over a certain age should be required to learn how to shoot and allowed to carry.


24 posted on 09/24/2014 7:19:24 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Guns are not the problem. People are. Forget the magazine...check your attitude.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
A local talk show host talked about the FBI stats regarding Black males. When adjusted for population, the average assault victim was 200 times more likely to have been assaulted by a Black male than a White male.

Like Richard Pryor said, "Thank God We Got Penitentiaries."

25 posted on 09/24/2014 7:19:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: walford

Various places in Charlottesville are feeding zones where the local yutes burgle, rob, beat, rape, and apparently do worse to the college students, UVA hospital staff, hospital visitors, patients, tourists, and townspeople. The leftist City government placates the hood and tries to keep a lid on the realities lest they panic tourists and the herd.

A year or so before Knock Out King made national news, there was a rash of cracka-bashing around the Downtown Mall, usually about 10PM+. It started to kill business, but the Council refused to put in security cameras lest they violate “civil liberties” (thus all the merchant camera footage surfacing now. The Police Chief just made a frustrated comment about the City’s refusal).

In my time at UVA decades ago, a “rape” culture among some of the fraternities, normally covered up by the college, was dragged into the open by egregious events. Much has changed about that, I hope. But Charlottesville is NOT going to crack down on its bad actors. The PD just let a possible serial killer walk away, lest the racially sensitive be discomfited.

I understand the feminist/lazy parent idea that young women should be free to live independent lives. It is not their fault that criminals prey in them. But the price can be very high. Surely there is a better way than pretending nothing bad will happen.


26 posted on 09/24/2014 7:26:05 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: BunnySlippers

Wow.


27 posted on 09/24/2014 7:27:34 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: ansel12

Teen girls need to know what not to do to become victims, and instructing them to adopt a lifestyle of studying hand to hand combat is unrealistic or else we would all be living the life of warrior.

I would advise girls and boys to enroll in an Aikido
club, learn how to defend yourself, it’s easier for
women as they don’t try to muscle through everything.
I have seen small women wipe the floor with several
grown men at once. Aikido also teaches you how to
recognize disharmony in the universe and allows you
to turn it back on those who would inflict it on others.

Probably the best advise I could give young people.


28 posted on 09/24/2014 7:27:56 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Why stop at young people, why not tell everyone to become devotees of Aikido?

It sure is easy to say.


29 posted on 09/24/2014 7:42:09 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: windcliff

The police have him greeting Hannah in the mall by putting his arm around her waist. Then he took her to a bar ... they stayed about 20 minutes.

The police say they either have on video ... or have a witness that shows the two drove off together.

She was never seen again. That was a week and a half ago.

They searched his car and home and they found DNA incriminating him.


30 posted on 09/24/2014 7:44:04 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I want to document the “homeless” people and put their faces on the internet. Apparently C’ville has no law against solicitation because if they did, you wouldn’t see a bunch of dirty, filthy, indigent, scumbags at traffic lights or downtown bumming money for a living. I am sure a cursory investigation will prove that these persons do this for a living, i.e. they aren’t really homeless and could get a job, but instead of answering any of the 100s of help wanted signs I see at almost every store I go to, they choose to engage in activity which is surely against the law in the most of the US. If you sell food from a food truck, which can be great around here, you need a license just to sell. How is it that these dirtbags don;t need a license to solicit? Most hookers are rounded up for that exact reason, but not the scum of the Earth in the People’s Republic of Charlottesville.


31 posted on 09/24/2014 7:48:45 AM PDT by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Good morning. From your on the scene perspective, two questions, if I may..

1. Was there a report that she was seen on video walking up to the guy, and embracing him, before she left with him? Does that mean that she knew him? If so..why and how?

2. There seems to be very little criticism of the police for letting the guy just walk out of the station. He should have been detained. Who screwed up here..who gets blamed..?

32 posted on 09/24/2014 7:49:17 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050

1. The video shows him coming up to her and putting his arm around her waist. I have never heard that she reciprocated.

2. When he was in the police department, he walked in an asked for an attorney. He met with one.

The DNA evidence had not gotten back from the lab so there was no probable cause to detain him.

He went to a car at the curb and peeled away at high, reckless speed. Even though the police said they were “overtly” following him, they said it was too dangerous to tail the car at high speeds.


33 posted on 09/24/2014 7:54:50 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Chewbarkah

Copy/pasting this into my Facebook version.

https://www.facebook.com/wralford/posts/10152297245531933


34 posted on 09/24/2014 7:58:10 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford [feel free to friend me] @wralford on Twitter)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“Young women who dress modestly should not think they are safe to go out alone either. That is more important than mode of dress.”

IMO, they’re about equally important. When I was single, going out with friends at night, I never walked to my car alone. I wouldn’t have felt comfortable doing so. If I had been dressed like some girls today, I would have been even less comfortable.


I knew a recent UVA grad who wore too much clothing if that’s possible because she was self-conscious about her body.

But she walked around as if she had a “kick me” sign on her back. Even her younger siblings [one boy, one girl] picked on her because of the way she carried herself.

Attitude, situational awareness — and not putting yourself in vulnerable positions in the first place are highly important.

Just as it’s not possible to have ‘safe sex’ with someone who is HIV+, it is not possible for a young woman to safely go out drinking and walk around alone. Gun or no gun. Martial arts training or no. No matter what she’s wearing.


35 posted on 09/24/2014 8:07:53 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford [feel free to friend me] @wralford on Twitter)
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To: Balding_Eagle

If she has been murdered, odds are great it will be by the hands of a Black male
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I agree with you, especially in regards to the ‘evidence’ they have shared with us etc.

That said, and brushing aside the claim of ‘us’ being racist, it came to mind the other day that when I was her age, a crime going down the way this was described (the ‘original’ meet) would NEVER have happened in 1950/60’s Charlottesville VA.

That man would have been ‘taken’ out or at least chased off at the first sign of him ‘manhandling’ the young girl.

Especially if someone had been ‘following’ her - in fear for her safety (??) and observed the exchange on the street.

Don’t know if it was ‘taught’ to us but since my first venture to Tijuana in 1957 and several more of the ‘exotic’ ports of the Far East, you always went ashore with a group and would always manage to come back with at least one of them. If a shipmate were to get really wasted he would be poured into a cab and taken back to the ship.

Of course, that was before breathalyzers, everybody driving and the attitude that if a US Sailor didn’t drink or smoke there was something ‘wrong’ with him, socially and mentally.
(Not picking on those that DIDN’T smoke or drink - If you are/were one of them, you know the prevailing ‘attitude’)
With what ‘they’ are encouraging to join today’s Armed Forces, probably not a good idea to be aboard ship drunk as you don’t know what predator may be lurking in your ‘safe zone’.


36 posted on 09/24/2014 8:19:22 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Thanks for the clarification about the video. BTW..is it available on line.

Re the police...he walked into the station...couldn't he be detained for questioning as a "person of interest?"

37 posted on 09/24/2014 8:22:05 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050

I don’t know the law ... but I don’t think the police can detain you for questioning.


38 posted on 09/24/2014 8:23:52 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Balding_Eagle
"I didn't know that a perp has been identified. Even the author didn't have the courage to include the information on the list."

Well, yes he did, as a matter of fact. And he even went so far as to identify him by name.

Try reading the article (it wasn't even excerpted) before commenting next time.

39 posted on 09/24/2014 8:25:07 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: BunnySlippers

Dammit..where’s a lawyer when you need one?


40 posted on 09/24/2014 8:30:36 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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