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The enduring myth of FDR and the New Deal
The Washington Times ^ | 9/19/2014 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 09/23/2014 9:49:15 AM PDT by iowamark

My seventh-grade son recently wrote a U.S. History paper extolling the virtues of President Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal. “It ended the Great Depression,” he wrote with great certainty. He’s only 12 and parroting what the history texts and his teachers told him.

That’s his excuse. What’s Ken Burns’?

Mr. Burns’ docudrama on the Roosevelts — for those who weren’t bored to tears — repeats nearly all the worn-out fairy tales of the FDR presidency, including what I call the most enduring myth of the 20th century, which is that FDR’s avalanche of alphabet-soup government programs ended the Great Depression. Shouldn’t there be a statute of limitations on such lies?

Ask nearly anyone over the age of 80, and they will say that FDR cared about the working man and “gave the country hope,” a point that Mr. Burns emphasizes. Roosevelt exuded empathy, which isn’t a bad thing — remember Bill Clinton’s memorable line “I feel your pain”? — but caring doesn’t create jobs or lift gross domestic product.

Nor does spending government money revive growth, despite the theories put into practice by the then-dean of all economists, John Maynard Keynes. Any objective analysis of these facts can lead to no other conclusion. U.S. unemployment averaged a rate of 18 percent during Roosevelt’s first eight years in office. In the decade of the 1930s, U.S. industrial production and national income fell by about almost one-third. In 1940, after year eight years of the New Deal, unemployment was still averaged a god-awful 14 percent...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bonusarmy; fdr; kenburns; pbs; roosevelt; roosevelts
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To: Slyfox

Ken Burns is a radical avowed leftist

It was the End of FDR’s policies that ended the depression, not the war


21 posted on 09/23/2014 10:18:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DFG

From wiki ....

A second, smaller Bonus March in 1933 at the start of the Roosevelt Administration was defused in May with an offer of jobs for the Civilian Conservation Corps at Fort Hunt, Virginia, which most of the group accepted. Those who chose not to work for the CCC by the May 22 deadline were given transportation home.[2] In 1936, Congress overrode President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s veto and paid the veterans their bonus years early.


22 posted on 09/23/2014 10:20:14 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: GeronL

No thread discussing Ken Burns is complete without a pitch to go see “The Old Negro Space Program” documentary, which is done in his style.

On a cellphone, don’t have a link, but it’s easily found on YouTube.


23 posted on 09/23/2014 10:21:23 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: yarddog

The end of WW2 and the death of FDR is what ended the Depression


24 posted on 09/23/2014 10:23:33 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: iowamark

“over the age of 80, and they will say that FDR cared about the working man”

OMG, 20 years ago I had a secretary in our office who was of that group, and she said exactly that. I wasn’t overly combative at that point, so I just frowned and bore it. She was also such a nice lady.

But I was raised by parents a bit younger who didn’t buy that. Of course, neither did their parents who actually lived it. Mom told me her mother reacted with total nonchalance when her neighbor, who loved FDR, spread the news about his death. She was melodramatic about it and grandma basically said, “sorry for you, but no skin off my nose”.


25 posted on 09/23/2014 10:26:04 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: TurboZamboni

ROFL


26 posted on 09/23/2014 10:26:28 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: tanknetter

lol


27 posted on 09/23/2014 10:26:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I call it THE RAW DEAL!

The rest of the world suffered thru the Depression.

America suffered thru the GREAT Depression due to FDR’s FOLLIES!

I have read a lot of books about him and W Wilson.


28 posted on 09/23/2014 10:27:46 AM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: tophat9000

AMEN TO THAT!


29 posted on 09/23/2014 10:28:04 AM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: iowamark

Alphabet soup of tyranny!


30 posted on 09/23/2014 10:30:25 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: tophat9000

Exactly the same, including the fact that it’s really all his predecessor’s fault. Despite many years to correct it, and having a friendly Congress.


31 posted on 09/23/2014 10:30:37 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Old North State

Would that his “little vignettes” were ONLY “little” and not 8 hours long.


32 posted on 09/23/2014 10:31:24 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: iowamark

They should have shot Wickard and sent Filburn to Congress.


33 posted on 09/23/2014 10:31:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: GeronL

Yes, I know what ended the Great Depression. I watched the series and at no time did Ken Burns say that FDR ended the Depression. He clearly showed that the ramp up to WWII is what ended the Depression. I watched specifically to see if he would say it but he didn’t say what everyone seems to think he said.


34 posted on 09/23/2014 10:32:36 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
A number of economists recently said that if we had not imposed the New Deal, the US economy would have started to pick up steam by 1936-1937 anyway, especially given the history of earlier financial panics in the USA. By 1940 in this scenario, the Great Depression would just be a bad memory.
35 posted on 09/23/2014 10:33:58 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: iowamark

read

FDR’s Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/fdrs-folly-jim-powell/1111529532?ean=9780307420718

look it up on Amazon and you can ‘Look Inside”


36 posted on 09/23/2014 10:34:22 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: iowamark

I often had this discussion with my economics students. Unemployment disappeared when millions of men were drafted into the military starting in 1940 and war time industries ramped up production. However this boom was paid for with high taxes and millions of Americans being coerced into buying war bonds. War is one of the few times when government spending can cause economic growth, but does so by taking millions out of the work force for military service and with huge deficits.


37 posted on 09/23/2014 10:37:52 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Slyfox

The “ramp up to WW2” did not end the depression. Americans were still using ration cards and such weren’t they? America itself was still in the depression during the war. The war was being funded through debt, which is not good for an economy.

The depression was ended after the war.


38 posted on 09/23/2014 10:38:43 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

My father, if he had lived, would be an “over 80”. He knew the truth about FDR, and wasn’t afraid to say it. Even so, I wish FDR had lived another six months so that he could have celebrated the victory in WWII.


39 posted on 09/23/2014 10:38:57 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: GeronL

FDR did not end the Depression.


40 posted on 09/23/2014 10:43:26 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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