Posted on 09/22/2014 7:26:25 PM PDT by Kartographer
The backs of the battered secondhand vans carrying the dead were closed with twisted, rusting wire. Bodies were dumped in new graves, and a worker in a short-sleeve shirt carried away the stretcher, wearing only plastic bags over his hands as protection. The outlook for the day at King Tom Cemetery was busy.
“We will need much more space,” said James C. O. Hamilton, the chief gravedigger, as a colleague cleared the bush with his machete.
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he drew a crap war to serve in.
You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!
The thought of my neighbors, relatives, friends in the same straits...
My heart goes out to them and my prayers go up for them.
We must do what we can to prevent it here.
“we have one now, and it looks too serious to ignore.”
Really? And just what is that mission?
You mean you will remind me of it, why would you do that?
Do you think that Ebola is quietly going away with no risk to Americans?
Perhaps it is time for you to start taking this seriously, if you can.
Like post 4 says, “”Part of the Army’s mission is biological warfare and infectious disease threats, well, we have one now, and it looks too serious to ignore.””
You don’t think this is a serious infectious disease threat?
“You don’t think this is a serious infectious disease threat?”
Is that an appropriate mission for the US Army? If you think so - why?
Why would the United States Army be involved in biological warfare and infectious disease threats to the United States?
It is one of their primary missions and their areas of expertise.
So this is biological warfare?
Why, exactly is this an infectious disease threat to the United States? Is it because the Army is not in Africa?
There is nothing that the Army will do that will impact the infectious disease threat to the United States - which is substantial with Ebola. The threat of Ebola against the US has to do with allowing infected people to travel to the US.
What is the Army going to do about that? Nothing.
So is this biological warfare? If not, then what is the mission of the Army here, and is it appropriate?
What is it about these threads that brings out all the angry guys?
I didn’t say that it was biological warfare, but it is an infectious disease threat to the United States and to the world, and to Africa.
The Army is going in to try and help end this outbreak, and keep it from breaking out in mass, limit it’s escape, to at least individuals rather than floods of refugees. This is the 26th outbreak of Ebola since 1976, the Army has always been involved to some degree and in this largest outbreak, the Army involvement is it’s largest effort to date.
The Army is who detected and handled most of the Ebola outbreak in the Unites States in 1989.
As far as being in Africa, the Army is all over Africa, it is an area of operations for them, they have bases and stations in well over a dozen African nations.
“I didn’t say that it was biological warfare, but it is an infectious disease threat to the United States and to the world, and to Africa.”
SO any time infectious disease breaks out anywhere, the Army should be there?
If the Army were sent to set up a perimeter to prevent people from spreading Ebola, I might agree. But that’s not what they are there to do, is it?
“The Army is who detected and handled most of the Ebola outbreak in the Unites States in 1989.”
Ah..in the United States? That’s not in Africa, is it?
Do you know the real reason the Army is in Africa? I’ll bet you can reason this one out. I’ll give you a hint: It has nothing to do with protecting the USA
“What is it about these threads that brings out all the angry guys?”
I don’t know - maybe if you lay out a few more ridiculous arguments and red herrings all will become clear.
Some think the Ebola situation is serious, yes, that this is not just an “any time infectious disease breaks out anywhere, the Army should be there?” time, although the Army has been there during the other big break outs.
“We had a large footprint in Africa,” Cummings said of the Defense Department’s response to the first Ebola cases reported in 1976 in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, formerly Zaire. Since that time, the Defense Department has answered numerous calls for assistance from the World Health Organization (WHO), nongovernmental organizations and ministries of heath and defense, he said.”
I don’t think you realize just how deeply the Army is involved in disease and biological threats, and on an international scale, and how back in history that goes.
And there just isn’t a reason for these threads to attract the angry emotional raging types and conspiracy guys, but most of them do.
“I would love to go back into the military for the third time, would you like to join me or have you already served enough?”
We need u here.
Hey Nully, your first pic in the Bring Out Your Dead ping comments (.../oktoberfest/ricola.jpg) isn’t displaying tonight. Broken image link. — Dayglored
The math is simple: We can shut down all international travel and close all borders until this burns out, or we can deal with Ebola directly (either in the USA or while it is in Africa). Option 1 is not realistic or practical, which leaves option 2. I’d rather deal with it in Africa than have multiple countries collapse before it gets to the USA along several paths, either intentional or inadvertent. I have family members who may be sent to deal with it, and friends who are already in West Africa because of this outbreak. I’d rather have them face it now while there is a chance of containing the threat.
“Some think the Ebola situation is serious, yes, that this is not just an “any time infectious disease breaks out anywhere, the Army should be there?””
Again - I’m not questioning whether Ebola is serious. I’m questioning using the Army at this time in a civilian operation on another continent when we aren’t even using basic quarantine measures to prevent the infected from coming to the US.
Shouldn’t the deployment of the Army have something to do with that?
“I don’t think you realize just how deeply the Army is involved in disease and biological threats, and on an international scale, and how back in history that goes.”
Of course I do. Ft. Detrick exists for a reason. This isn’t it.
The only reason for the Army to be deployed is “optics” - so Obama can say he did “something”. It’s entirely political - to prevent him from isolating Africa (as should be done) for basic quarantine reasons. If he acknowledges the fact that people can carry serious disease, he’ll have to acknowledge the Mexican border too.
This isn’t conspiracy stuff - Are you really that wedded to your precious opinion and ego that you have to make “conspiracy nut” charges against those who point out your argument is weak and in many ways completely wrong?
You won’t even address the issue directly in your argument.
Just because the Army has biological warfare capabilities is no reason to go to West Africa at this time. If you agree with the claim its for “national security” but do not prevent potentially infected people from flying to the USA and do not acknowledge this fact - you are not a serious debater of issues.
I think some level of disgust and anger is completely warranted on this issue. I prefer to deal in facts - yet you label people straight out of Alinsky.
Those you berate on this thread do not deserve the treatment you give them. You should apologize. Your tactics do not befit a serious discussion of the issue.
You are a poor debater and have poor command of obvious facts.
Thank you for the intelligent post.
The Army does NOT have a cure for Ebola.
Thanks for the ping(s), effort appreciated.
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