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Democrats Are Poised To Hold The Senate, And It’s Conservative’s Fault
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| September 21, 2014
| Derek Hunter
Posted on 09/21/2014 4:48:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: MHGinTN
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... they will whine that voting was at fault. --
Maybe universal suffrage in combination with the federal government taking on the role of "guarantor of personal welfare" is at fault. I don't think there is a controlled fix or remedy.
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posted on
09/21/2014 2:35:10 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: VRWC For Truth
Keep pissing on your base. Thats a winning strategy. Honestly, one would think they read this book, believing it was a work of satire.
362
posted on
09/21/2014 2:45:49 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: combat_boots
Actually, unlike the GOP (not Sen Cruz, and some others),
Sen. Warren voted against arming al Qaeda aka the “rebels”.
363
posted on
09/21/2014 2:46:57 PM PDT
by
Diogenesis
(The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
To: Yosemitest
Does this mean that you consider the Democrats to be preferable to the “Establishment Republicans” who voted against the passage of the Obamacare law, but voted for funding bills that included the Democrat passed Obamacare law? Remember, in this game you only get two choices.
To: centurion316; Yosemitest
Does this mean that you consider the Democrats to be preferable to the Establishment Republicans who voted against the passage of the Obamacare law, but voted for funding bills that included the Democrat passed Obamacare law? Remember, in this game you only get two choices. Does this mean that you consider it a good thing to continue rewarding corrupt politicians who want to throw your grandchildren's and great-grandchildren's future away until the country is completely bankrupt? Remember, in this game YOU actually only get one choice - your progeny get none.
365
posted on
09/21/2014 3:06:35 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: centurion316
Shaddup, GOPe SHILL. They voted to fund it ever since. What have they done lately ... NOTHING. Another winning strategy. GOPe = DemocRat losers.
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:11:13 PM PDT
by
VRWC For Truth
(Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
To: VRWC For Truth
I’m wondering what leads you to believe that you are a part of the base. The definition of a base is a group of voters who will reliably vote for your party and for your candidates, and never vote for the opposition’s candidates. By that definition, I would say that you, and others of your ilk who advocate voting for a Democrat rather than a Republican deemed by you to be a RINO.
Your support may be welcome, but it’s certainly not reliable from a politician’s point of view. And, oh by the way, many like you have been known to get off the reservation and vote for Ross Perot or some Libertarian nutcase on occasion. It’s hard to claim that some politicians is pissing on the base when the so called base is pissing back.
To: centurion316
In order to get this right, we must FIRST "CLEAN OUR OWN PARTY" !
No "IFs", NO "BUTs", NO "BUT WAITs" !
We can no longer tolerate what
ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" are doing to our Party.
PERIOD !
Politics is not for amateurs, and
ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" have been playing us for saps for FAR TOO LONG.
It's going to be a long and hard battle, but
ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" have FUNDED EVERYTHING those MARXISTS/FASCISTS have put in front of them !
NO MORE !
Until we get our OWN HOUSE IN ORDER, nothing is more important than getting rid of those COCKROACHES.
How many times must I remind you "newbeeies" ?
Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled
The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed many important issues that I agree with.
Thus far, the field of GOP presidential contenders, actual and potential, isnt looking too terribly promising.
This, though, isnt meant to suggest that any of the candidates, all things being equal, lack what it takes to insure
that Barack Obama never sees the light of a second term; nor is it the case that I find none of the candidates appealing.
Rather, I simply mean that at this juncture, the party faithful is far from unanimously energized over any of them.
It is true that it was the rapidity and aggressiveness with which President Obama proceeded to impose his perilous designs upon the country
that proved to be the final spark to ignite the Tea Party movement.
But the chain of events that lead to its emergence began long before Obama was elected.
That is, it was actually the disenchantment with the Republican Party under our compassionate conservative president, George W. Bush,
which overcame legions of conservatives that was the initial inspiration that gave rise to the Tea Party.
It is this frustration with the GOPs betrayal of the values that it affirms that accounts for why the overwhelming majority
of those who associate with or otherwise sympathize with the Tea Party movement
refuse to explicitly or formally identify with the Republican Party.
And it is this frustration that informs the Tea Partiers threat to create a third party
in the event that the GOP continues business as usual.
If and when those conservatives and libertarians who compose the bulk of the Tea Party, decided that the Republican establishment
has yet to learn the lessons of 06 and 08, choose to follow through with their promise,
they will invariably be met by Republicans with two distinct but interrelated objections.
First, they will be told that they are utopian, purists foolishly holding out for an ideal candidate.
Second, because virtually all members of the Tea Party would have otherwise voted Republican if not for this new third party, they will be castigated for essentially giving elections away to Democrats.
Both of these criticisms are, at best, misplaced; at worst, they are just disingenuous.
At any rate, they are easily answerable.
Lets begin with the argument against purism. To this line, two replies are in the coming.
No one, as far as I have ever been able to determine, refuses to vote for anyone who isnt an ideal candidate.
Ideal candidates, by definition, dont exist.
This, after all, is what makes them ideal.
This counter-objection alone suffices to expose the argument of the Anti-Purist as so much counterfeit.
But there is another consideration that militates decisively against it.
A Tea Partier who refrains from voting for a Republican candidate who shares few if any of his beliefs
can no more be accused of holding out for an ideal candidate
than can someone who refuses to marry a person with whom he has little to anything in common
be accused of holding out for an ideal spouse.
In other words, the object of the argument against purism is the most glaring of straw men:I will not vote for a thoroughly flawed candidate is one thing;
I will only vote for a perfect candidate is something else entirely.
As for the second objection against the Tea Partiers rejection of those Republican candidates who eschew his values and convictions,
it can be dispensed with just as effortlessly as the first.
Every election seasonand at no time more so than this past seasonRepublicans pledge to reform Washington, trim down the federal government, and so forth.
Once, however, they get elected and they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail,
those who placed them in office are treated to one lecture after the other on the need for compromise and patience.
Well, when the Tea Partiers impatience with establishment Republican candidates intimates a Democratic victory,
he can use this same line of reasoning against his Republican critics.
My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none, he can insist.
But in order to advance in the long run my conservative or Constitutionalist values, it may be necessary to compromise some in the short term.
For example,
as Glenn Beck once correctly noted in an interview with Katie Couric,
had John McCain been elected in 2008, it is not at all improbable that, in the final analysis,
the country would have been worse off than it is under a President Obama.
McCain would have furthered the countrys leftward drift,
but because this movement would have been slower,
and because McCain is a Republican, it is not likely that the apparent awakening that occurred under Obama would have occurred under McCain.
It may be worth it, the Tea Partier can tell Republicans, for the GOP to lose some elections if it means that conservativesand the countrywill ultimately win.
If he didnt know it before, the Tea Partier now knows that accepting short-term loss in exchange for long-term gain is the essence of compromise, the essence of politics.
Ironically, he can thank the Republican for impressing this so indelibly upon him.
I'm fresh out of
"patience", and I'm not in the mood for
"compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the
RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.
Take a good long look at where
"Establishment Republicans" ALWAYS take us.
The "Establishment Republicans" can GO TO HELL !
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:13:29 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: VRWC For Truth
This one’s got to be a paid Priebus troll. Completely ignores any reasoning, and keeps to the GOPe script.
369
posted on
09/21/2014 3:14:04 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: centurion316; VRWC For Truth
Im wondering what leads you to believe that you are a part of the base. The definition of a base is a group of voters who will reliably vote for your party and for your candidates, and never vote for the oppositions candidates. Kiss my ass, troll.
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:15:52 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: Yosemitest
This GOPe troll is getting tiresome.
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:16:48 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: COBOL2Java
They've got the "Battered Wife Syndrome" !
Or else the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" are paying them to keep selling this same ole line
that they've been selling since Bill Clinton took office!
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:18:38 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: COBOL2Java
My choice is to never vote for a Democrat, more correctly, my choice is to consistently vote against Democrats. Since voting for some third party nut case or not voting is a complete cop out, I will always vote for a Republican. If there is no Republican on the ballot, I will write in the name of local Republicans whom I know are not on the ballot elsewhere.
I long for the day when there is a Conservative Party run by true conservatives in the manner that lefties run the Democrat Party, but until that day arrives, I will follow my current practice and work within the Republican Party to advance Conservative causes and candidates.
Those who vote for democrats are my lifelong political enemies and that includes anyone on this forum who actually do what they advocate (I understand that some are just spouting off to appear to be something that they are not)
To: centurion316
GREAT POST.
My vote is my voice and I will not be silenced.
I WILL ALWAYS vote for the lesser of two evils.
Anything other than that is the behavior of a 5 year old.
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:21:15 PM PDT
by
Repeal The 17th
(We have met the enemy and he is us.)
To: COBOL2Java
When you can’t argue the facts, pound the table and shout. Your problem, not mine.
To: Yosemitest
The establishment Republicans have been around since way before Nelson Rockefeller. They always hated Reagan. Now they’re in control of the Party. They’re the ones pushing Thad and McConnell, and think Boehner is just fine heading the House. Now their shills are here on Free Republic, screaming like banshees at those of us who refuse to eat their Party’s Obama sandwiches. This thread’s a perfect example.
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:23:24 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: Repeal The 17th
Anything other than that is the behavior of a 5 year old. They are among us.
To: Yosemitest
Or else the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" are paying them to keep selling this same ole line that they've been selling since Bill Clinton took office! We'll see what happens in November. When their lousy candidates go down in flames, they'll go and blame us again, instead of looking in the mirror as usual.
378
posted on
09/21/2014 3:26:19 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: McGruff
Oh and who is Sara Palin?
379
posted on
09/21/2014 3:29:56 PM PDT
by
Kaslin
(He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
To: centurion316
Shaddup, GOPe SHILL. The is Free Republic and not the GOPe fellation zone. ROFL. Loser.
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posted on
09/21/2014 3:30:11 PM PDT
by
VRWC For Truth
(Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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