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Following Scotland’s lead: 25% of USA residents open to breaking away
Hotair ^ | 09/20/2014 | NOAH ROTHMAN

Posted on 09/20/2014 5:09:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

On Thursday evening, what was touted as a nail-biter of a vote in Scotland which would determine if the country would break away from the United Kingdom turned out to not even be close. By a vote of 55 to 45 percent, Scotland decided that it would remain a member of the union of which it has been a part since 1707.

Americans were… unimpressed. First, the lack of exit polling and the methodical counting of votes ensured that those watching the coverage of the independence ballot had to wait until the late hours of the evening to get a clear picture of the results. Who doesn’t project election outcomes these days? Second, Americans clearly know how to organize secessionist movements far better than do their Scottish brethren.

While most of them end in defeat, or even blood, there has always been an undercurrent of secessionism running beneath the surface of the North American union of states. In spite of a general lack of legitimate grievances, one in four Americans are perfectly comfortable with breaking away from the Union even today.

“Almost a quarter (23.9 percent) of those surveyed said they were strongly or provisionally inclined to leave the United States, and take their states with them,” Reuters recently revealed. “Given the polling sample — about 9,000 people so far—the online survey’s credibility interval (which is digital for “margin of error”) was only 1.2 percentage points, so there is no question that that is what they said.”

Secession got more support from Republicans than Democrats, more from right- than left-leaning independents, more from younger than older people, more from lower- than higher-income brackets, more from high school than college grads.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: scotland; secession; states
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1 posted on 09/20/2014 5:09:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Count me as being part of that 25%.But I don’t want *my* state to secede...I want the red states to do so at which point I’ll move to NC,GA,TN or maybe IN.


2 posted on 09/20/2014 5:13:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m in! We need Texas to secede and then pull the rest of the south and Midwest with it.


3 posted on 09/20/2014 5:15:46 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: SeekAndFind

The successionist movement in Scotland is largely leftist
and socialist in nature.

If it was an independence movement based on culture , I would be in favor, but the independence movement is actually about equal division of material benefits among the people , no real capitalist or entrepreneurial ideology.

The very strengths of Scotland , her traditions, military
and innovations are not the basis for the current separation. The basis is more of the UK pie.

I would not support Scotlands independence to put her into the hands of leftists, but a Scottish revival of culture and Scots gaelic as a basis of a conservative Scottish independence movement? That I would support as a Scottish American.


4 posted on 09/20/2014 5:18:23 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem remains—the big city. Big cities everywhere are the cancers. How do you fix that after secession?


5 posted on 09/20/2014 5:21:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: SeekAndFind

i’d not mind. but i’d rather force the socialists to leave and restore what the country is supposed to be.


6 posted on 09/20/2014 5:22:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Nn, but the 25 percent illegal aliens polled definitely did.

Same thing helped the separation push in Scotland, but instead of a close race, the voters in Scotland (most of whom are Scottish, but Glasgow is lousy with “Asians”) rejected it by a margin of ten percent.


7 posted on 09/20/2014 5:22:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SgtHooper

wall them off. end welfare. offer one way rides to nearest socialist state.


8 posted on 09/20/2014 5:25:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Candor7

Yep. Well said.


9 posted on 09/20/2014 5:26:44 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Candor7

Well said.


10 posted on 09/20/2014 5:36:22 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What I love about this country is we don’t have walls.....you aint gotta secede, just walk the heck out! This land aint your land, this land is my land. Grant and Sherman forever!


11 posted on 09/20/2014 5:54:10 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: SeekAndFind

The American colonial revolution took place with only 24% of the population being in favor of independence from England. As the war was going badly, that number remained steady. Once it looked like we might win the war, the public shifted towards independence, with only a slight majority.


12 posted on 09/20/2014 6:07:45 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about ejecting a few states?


13 posted on 09/20/2014 6:20:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: SeekAndFind
12/29/2008 – YouTube - Russian Professor Predicts the USA Disintegrates
run time = 00:03:35 minutes

WSJ - The End of the U.S.?

The Wall Street Journal published an article about Russian professor and political scientist, Igor Panarin, who 1st predicted in 1998 that the U.S. would probably disintegrate into 6 parts by JUL 2010. "There's a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur. … One could rejoice in that process ... .But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario -- for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he said, its economy would suffer because it currently depended heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S. He forecasted financial and demographic changes within the U.S. which would provoke a political crisis in which the wealthier states would withhold funds from the federal government. These wealthier states would effectively secede from the Union, leading to social unrest, civil war, national division, and intervention of foreign powers. The break-up would also lead to mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation.


14 posted on 09/20/2014 6:22:55 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” POTUS#16 ALincol)
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To: MacNaughton

one big problem .
private citizens are heavily armed .
i would love to see Mexico or Europe try to invade Louisiana or Alabama or Arkansas or Tennessee or Georgia.or Oklahoma .
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15 posted on 09/20/2014 6:39:13 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: SgtHooper
The problem remains—the big city. Big cities everywhere are the cancers. How do you fix that after secession?

Gerrymander them out of the new union.

16 posted on 09/20/2014 6:46:42 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Count me in if the 25% are all Dims. They can go create their own utopia anywhere else.


17 posted on 09/20/2014 6:59:56 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: Bryanw92

Brilliant idea dude. So, who gets the Navy, the Coast Guard, the Marine Corps, Army and Air Force?


18 posted on 09/20/2014 7:02:16 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: SgtHooper

If you don’t pay taxes you do not vote that year. If you take public assistance you don’t vote for 25 years.

If necessary, you kill the enemy until they agree to these terms.


19 posted on 09/20/2014 7:57:21 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am one of them-afterall our nation was founded upon respect for the natural rights that God has given each one of us and the reality that a sovereign people has to give consent to whom is governing over them (and therefore ARE allowed to change political, even governments when necessary and wished for by the same people~)!~


20 posted on 09/20/2014 8:06:43 PM PDT by JSDude1
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