Posted on 09/20/2014 11:22:55 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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Do You Think It’s OK for Parents to Spank Their Children?
YES
NO
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The words are used alternatively/interchangable.
You have shown yourself to have some self control issues...so don’t try to say you are a prefect example of self discipline.
Another pseudo-psychologist heard from.
The words are used alternatively/interchangeable.
We are aware that you are misusing the words.
That is why we are correcting you.
There are things I do purposely. Like do a misspelling or like now, misuse words. The reason being when people don’t have a rational response to something I post they go for either grammar or spelling. I use MSWord to write my posts first, run them through grammar check and spelling. I also use Firefox’s spell check. It puts a red squiggly line under misspelled words - so I really don’t need correcting. But thanks anyway :)
Only by those who don’t...or don’t want to... understand the difference.
True - but now with all the awareness if a kid does get noticed i.e bruises and welts and cuts and broken bones there’s lots of questions asked of the parents.
Beatings rarely have anything to do with discipline but more to do with adult bullying.
They are the lovelies who throw babies against walls and burn infants and toddlers with cigarettes.
I despise them.
Exactly - frustration on the part of parents or sitters. You can do a search on child beatings and come up with all sorts of sad stories. And I’m with you - there’s special rooms in Hell for these people.
Yes. Failure to do so results in the current situation we have today in America...
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Proverbs 13:24 “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.”
Translating that from the King James English into American contemporary English is...
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16384/jewish/Chapter-13.htm
(Hebrew at the link.)
“He who holds back his rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him early.”
The rebbetzin’s (rabbi’s wife) commentary on this.
http://rechovot.blogspot.com/2011/07/parenting-from-torah-week-6-spare-rod.html
Commentary from Rabbi Kornfeld.
https://www.mail-archive.com/daf-
Mishlei: A Modern Commentary on Proverbs
http://books.google.com/books?id=PhnOxYXqlYgC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=mishlei+13:24&source=bl&ots=Hlo70IzZm-&sig=xEfe9ZxDfBHb37wmkxIuLZAIAMw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JPAdVI72KMrSigLW7YGQBA&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=mishlei%2013%3A24&f=false
CORPORAL PUNISHMENT: HAVE THE TIMES CHANGED?
Benzion Sorotzkin, Psy.D. – Clinical Psychologist
http://www.drsorotzkin.com/pdf/CORPORAL-PUNISHMENT.pdf
not seeing a poll anywhere
> The Native Americans didn’t use corporal punishment. They used shame. If you misbehaved, you dishonored your parents and the community. To be shamed was something a child tried to avoid at all costs.
The child was treated with dignity - and learned dignity. Imagine that.
But Native American children didn’t have outside influences like social media, MSM, Internet, cellphones, and video games to Ithem a steasy stream of input to show them how to be bad either. I believe they would forgo the shaming and just go ahead nd burn them at the take if they had had to deal with that...
> The Native Americans didn’t use corporal punishment. They used shame. If you misbehaved, you dishonored your parents and the community. To be shamed was something a child tried to avoid at all costs.
The child was treated with dignity - and learned dignity. Imagine that.
But Native American children didn’t have outside influences like social media, MSM, Internet, cellphones, and video games to feed them a steady stream of input to show them how to be bad either. Their family and the tribe members all shatpred the same ite beliefs. Now you have “duhversity” and its not always a good thing. I believe their parents would forgo the shaming and just go ahead and burn them at the stake if they had had to deal with that...
Maybe some native Americans were not abusive but many original tribes were abusive. How to stop a baby from crying? Throw water in its face.
Amazing, like lawyers they mince words, they come up with a million ways to twist 1 simple sentence.
One sentence that is part of a message repeated throughout Scripture.
They are legalists, modern day Pharisees. Indeed, the Pharasaical tradition literally continues in them. They write THEIR OWN LAWS. They come up with new interpretations to replace the original true interpretations of Scripture.
Silly lawyers - it’s not so easy to confuse a person who has the benefit of the whole counsel of God, where commands are reinforced again and again in common themes that can only be wilfully ignored.
One only has to peruse the Bible for the letters chasten and one comes up with 24 verses:
Deuteronomy 8:5
Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, that, as a man chasteneth his son, so the Lord thy God chasteneth thee.
Deuteronomy 21:18
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
2 Samuel 7:14
I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
Job 5:17
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
Job 33:19
He is chastened also with pain upon his bed, and the multitude of his bones with strong pain:
Psalm 6:1
O Lord, rebuke me not in thine anger, neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure.
Psalm 38:1
O Lord, rebuke me not in thy wrath: neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure.
Psalm 69:10
When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach.
Psalm 73:14
For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psalm 94:12
Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O Lord, and teachest him out of thy law;
Psalm 118:18
The Lord hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.
Proverbs 3:11
My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction:
Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 19:18
Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
Isaiah 26:16
Lord, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.
Daniel 10:12
Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
1 Corinthians 11:32
But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
2 Corinthians 6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
Hebrews 12:5
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
Hebrews 12:6
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Hebrews 12:7
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Hebrews 12:10
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Hebrews 12:11
Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Hands are for loving, healing, comforting, and never for hitting or causing pain.
A rod is for dealing with rebellion, not mere disobedience.
The rod should be appropriately sized for the age and size of the child, and giving a child the rod should never be done while the parent is angry.
The rod is strictly for dealing with and defeating rebellion.
The rod should only be used on the child’s buttocks, and no lasting injury should result from its use.
Those were my rules as we raised our child.
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