Posted on 09/18/2014 7:53:44 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
Americans have to face the painful reality that Arabs are, when judged by 21st century Western Standards, a crazy people. This is not meant as an insult. Early this year, the Iraqi parliament proposed a law that would permit men to marry 9 year old girls. The law had the support of a majority of parliament. The law would also permit men to beat up and rape their wives, and prevent women from leaving the house without the permission of the husband. These SOBS are supposed to be the allies of America in the fight against ISIS. The Shia regime that rules Iraq, is made up of people who are just as crazy as ISIS.
http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Iraq-law-would-allow-9-year-old-girls-to-marry-5319224.php
Imagine what Americans would do to a congressman who proposed that 9 year old American girls be married off. Wouldn't he be put in a straight jacket?
Islam makes Arabs crazy. Islam has the same impact on Arabs, that the pre-Christian religion of the Danish people had on the Danes. The pre-Christian Vikings specialized in the rape of nuns in convents. The miracle that Christianity has performed, in civilizing the barbarian Danish Vikings, has simply been amazing.
Saddam Hussein was a crazy dictator, who ruled over an even more crazy people. Saddam's craziness enabled him to understand the crazy people that he ruled, which enabled him to keep the most extreme forms of craziness in check. This enabled the Christians and Yazidis to practice their religion.
How come you parrot leftist talking points?
I will say that the lesson learned is, once we decided to remove Saddam from Kuwait, we needed to go ahead and take out Saddam right then and there, regardless of what the Saudis thought.
All we did is left Saddam to plot his revenge, and guarantee that would have to return to finish the job.
Russia and Islam are both threats, during the last century, Russia has by far been the biggest threat to civilization and the world, and even human existence.
You don’t need to be working to raise up that monster again.
To clarify. I say that after the first Gulf War, he needed to be taken out. He should have been taken out, once we committed to liberating Kuwait.
But I question the First Gulf War. It was an errand for the Saudis. And the end result was a further radicalizing of Saddam. And to go in without removing him was dumb.
Saddam was a good muzzie zoo keeper and a natural enemy of Iran. I think Bush Sr. was wise to keep him in place. Jr. Boooosh made a mistake invading Iraq—not that Saddam wasn’t a bad man but keeping him as the heavy-handed zookeeper over the radicals would have spared a ton of hassles and grief.
It’s always easier to control your enemies in a dictatorship. There’s no rules and no pressure to be the good guy.
The Saddam Hussein post-Gulf War I, was a different man than the one before.
You cannot kick a man’s ass, then leave him in power afterwards, free to plot his revenge.
“to go in without removing him was dumb”
I agree.
“Did Saddam Hussein Do a Better Job Fighting Radical Muslims Than America?”
Certainly better than Obama who supports the Muslim Brotherhood.
I have not always been a big fan of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Libya.
Some of the reasons have been pretty obvious.
If we have leaned nothing from the situations in Iran, and these other nations though, it’s a mistake.
Are the situations in these nations better today than they were before their governments were replaced? (those that have been)
I would submit they aren’t. Look at Iran after the Shah. Look at Libya, Egypt, and Syria. We don’t know how those will shake out.
I still believe that Saudi Arabia could turn out to be much worse than it is today, if it were destabilized.
I do not believe Saudi Arabia wants to see the West destroyed. It has large investments in the West. If it truly wanted to, it could have caused a lot more trouble for us then it has.
Back in the days when OPEC proceedings were a lot more public, Saudi Arabia was the moderating voice a number of times on behalf of the West. It’s working relationship with the Bush family should be cause for folks to understand it isn’t our enemy, not that it is.
We believe a number of the 09/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. I think that is more a source of embarrassment for the King, than something he coordinated.
Think about it. Saudi Arabia has tens of thousands of young citizens in our nation on student Visas. If it had wanted, there wouldn’t have only been 25 or so terrorists on 09/11. There could easily have been thousands.
Can we expect the Saudi Leadership to keep every single one of their subjects under control? Hell, we can’t keep our people under control. We have them flying off to join ISIS now.
For the record, I have advocated eliminating the Saudi Student Visa program. I have mixed thoughts on it, because overall it is a symbol of good relations with the Saudis. I still think there’s too much exposure, and we should put an end to it.
We may get to see Saudi Arabia’s leadership change. If we do, I hope I’m wrong, because I see real problems if it takes place.
The sect if Islam in Saudi Arabia is very anti-U. S. The current leadership isn’t. Look out if there is no agent of restraint on the anti-U. S. sentiments that exist there.
Thanks Infinnegan. That’s how I see it.
Sorry but Saddam was the lesser of the multiple evils in retrospect. The Kurds love us for taking him out and yes he gassed them as an evil man. But we had Saddam bottled up and the real culprit outside of Al_Quada was and is Iran.
Not to sound like a rotgut Dem but going into Iraq to remove Saddam was a mistake. You think this is now a better current outcome with ISIS? What if Iran jumps in and gobbles up Iraq now? Entirely possible.
The First Gulf War was a mistake.
But once it happened, taking him out was the only course.
I had hopes that Russia would join the West ideologically. Unfortunately, it hasn’t. It has instead looked for allies opposed to the West. Even at the height of its leadership’s enlightenment over the last twenty years, it has still supported Iran’s intransigence against the West. If Islam does become a bigger threat than Russia, it will have been with Russia’s help.
We forget that Russia still has ICBMs aimed at us. With Russian’s help Islam may someday have the same capability.
Clinton squandered that opportunity when he bombed Serbia. It gave the Russian hardliners fodder to point out that the US was still going to try to contain Russia.
So we took him out with Bush Jr. and look how it turned out?
How can you argue for something that was done and yet the results have been disastrous. Of course Bammy screwed it all up too. Saddam was a bastard but look at the monsters there now. You can’t back up your opinion with facts but I respect what you say__ just think you’re wrong about it and can’t prove the alternative.
Saddam harbored some very nasty characters in his country. He also supported the 9/11 attacks.
Would you have left Hitler in power, even though his capacity to wage war had been destroyed?
Saddam was no longer “useful” after the First Gulf War. The US became his main enemy.
The problem is that now Russia backs Iran and Assad.
The majority of 9/11 attackers were Saudis.
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