Posted on 09/16/2014 8:36:11 PM PDT by Nachum
Thanks for that link.
The form asks if you are an illegal immigrant. I guess that is so they can send you a voter registration form.
I always write “N/A” in those boxes. When asked, I say it stand for “Native American.”
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Just in time for 3000 troops to leave us for Africa, and another 450 to go to the Middle East to help them. Who is on first?
- Homeland Security: We Can’t Stop ISIS from Coming Into the USA!
http://www.undergroundworldnews.com
Homeland Security officials warned Wednesday they don’t have a full picture of the Americans and Europeans heading to Syria to train with ISIS and therefore can’t stop them from coming into the US.
http://nypost.com/2014/09/10/homeland-security-we-cant-stop-isis-from-coming-into-us/
- Pink Booties on the golf course . . . with over 150 Secret Service Agents protecting him . . .
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Give it a shot. Lying on that form is a felony.
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Maybe so, but it’s a long-standing tradition that “race” and “ethnicity” is self-defined. Self-identified, which is how Barack gets away with defining himself as black or African-American or whatever it is he calls himself. What’s good for the so-called president is good for everyone else. Since we’re all “African” if you go back long enough in history and if you believe in evolution and what paleontologists claim about the origin of our species, then we’re all “African-American” so long as we’re citizens of this country. As for “ethnicity”, then isn’t “American” an ethnicity if “German” is? Or “Irish” or Hispanic, which is actually just a language group? In which case, can’t we all then put down “English” as our ethnic group? Since we mostly all speak English.
Sorry. I just looked at the pdf and noticed that there’s no option for entering an ethnicity other than Hispanic or NOT Hispanic. In addition, they cleverly eliminated the ability to put “other” and then an explanation such as “mixed race”. They’re forcing everyone to specify one or more of five choices. What do Pakistanis put, I wonder? Or Indians or Turks? In any case, it’s speculated that the reason they want to know whether or not the buyer is Hispanic or not is to justify gun control based upon the leftist argument that the guns used by the drug cartels to murder people all come from the USA.
TN and TX Pols Introduce Bill to Nix Ethnicity from ATF Form 4473
By Robert Farago on September 19, 2014
ATF form 4473 ethnicity question (courtesy atf.gov)
How long has Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (and Really Big Fires) asked gun buyers to state their ethnicity? I don’t know for sure, but Dan the Man reported on a change in the ATF Form 4473 ethnicity categories in July 2012. I’ve been ticking “African American” for at least five years. For some reason, the media suddenly woke up to the ethnicity aspect of the form 4473 earlier this week. And so “Republican Reps. Diane Black (Tenn.) and Ted Poe (Texas) have introduced legislation to eliminate the requirement for individuals to identify their race when filing paperwork to buy a gun,” thehill.com reports. Because “‘Failing to adhere to this requirement by not checking all of the correct boxes on the 4473 Form is considered an ATF violation that can be so severe as to result in the gun dealer being shut down for having incomplete purchaser forms,’ Black said.” Yes, well, why . . .
is the question there in the first place?
By law, the ATF and their fellow feds are not allowed to record or store the information written on Form 4473 (to block the creation of a federal gun registry). Dealers must keep the completed sales forms for 20 years, and stash denied sales forms for five years. If they go out of business or sell their FFL to another person, the ATF gets the forms.
There are unsubstantiated rumors that the feds are storing these surrendered forms electronically, in contravention of the law. Anyway, the ethnicity info is not being – can not be used for demographic research. It’s only good for crime investigation. The ATF and other law enforcement officials can require federally licensed gun dealers to show them completed forms when investigating a crime, and use the ethnicity info to find/ interview/apprehend/arrest/incarcerate suspects and perps.
Fair enough? Or does this raise the question, why are the feds data capturing my particulars for exercising my natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms when I haven’t committed a crime? It’s the same thought I had when I was fingerprinted for my Texas concealed handgun license.
It has a LOT more to do about KEEPING your gun...
“I am a native American. Yes I am.”
I looked for that option on the form. It wasn’t there.
I am native American. Native with a little n.
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