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Report: Rice set to appeal NFL's indefinite suspension Monday
Fox Sports ^ | 9/14/2014 | staff

Posted on 09/14/2014 6:20:35 PM PDT by tobyhill

When the Baltimore Ravens released Ray Rice earlier this week, the NFL followed suit with its own punishment and suspended the running back indefinitely. How long that suspension may last is unclear, but it sounds like Rice plans to fight it. Citing multiple media reports, NBC Sports' Pro Football Talk says Rice intends to file an appeal Monday that "will be handled by the NFLPA and by an outside lawyer retained by Rice." Initially, Rice received a two-game suspension in July, after an initial video showed him dragging his unconscious then-fiancee, Janay Palmer, out of a casino elevator in New Jersey in February. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell was criticized for that punishment, with many believing it was too lenient for Rice.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: baltimore; baltimoreravens; espn; futuresportscaster; janaypalmer; maryland; msnbc; newjersey; nfl; ravens; rayrice; rogergoodell
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To: tobyhill

You’re far more optimistic than I am.

I give it 5 years, tops, and no one will recognize the sport.


41 posted on 09/14/2014 7:05:41 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: scrabblehack
Goodell has a very wide discretion when it comes to personal conduct if it hurts the image of the NFL but he would have to suspend himself indefinitely for his conduct in hiding certain criminal behavior.
Goodell and the NFLPA will give each other an out by probably agreeing that a 12 game suspension is in order and claim the other was out of line.
It's another NFL head fake.
42 posted on 09/14/2014 7:10:06 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Balding_Eagle

The way the NFL has treated conservatives by banning ownership, using halftime for gun control debates, forcing us to endure the never ending pink ribbon ceremonies, etc., I don’t blame someone for wanting it’s destruction.
I don’t want to see its destruction because I love football but I do want massive change in the structure and leadership.
Find a leader to make it about football again and any criminal behavior will be dealt with openly and quickly. No more excusing thuggery.


43 posted on 09/14/2014 7:19:24 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: scrabblehack
yes, there can be a “gentleman’s agreement” for the Ravens to waive Rice and no one to sign him but for the league to indefinitely suspend him after suspending him for two games would be double jeopardy.

No, that would be collusion.

44 posted on 09/14/2014 7:23:43 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: tobyhill
I don’t want to see the NFL ruined but I want them to pay a penalty for all this cover up that’s been going on.

Why is the burden on the NFL? We have a legal system in this country. Criminal activity should be punished in the criminal courts. If the league wants to take action beyond that, fine. But these guys are on the field because the legal system allows it.

45 posted on 09/14/2014 7:27:28 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Rodamala

I didn’t know that. I couldn’t see it in the video.


46 posted on 09/14/2014 7:37:25 PM PDT by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: tobyhill

This is much to do about nothing. . . doesn’t anyone talk about the “on the field talent anymore” rather than the “off the field” shenanigans. These owners, coaches and players are laughing all the way to the bank and the fans are being taken to the cleaners with ticket prices, food, parking not to mention the memorabilia that many purchase. And don’t forget the “wonderful” role models this game of football is now providing kids. Think about it. Football is no longer a sport. . .it is a spectacle.


47 posted on 09/14/2014 7:39:24 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Straight Vermonter

You ever heard of equal justice under the law?

An NFL Player has special justice under the law and then they get special treatment beyond what our employers would do for us.

There was an article in WP that described how the NFL covers crimes up for the player and would trash the victim just to protect their investments.

If I’m going to spend money on NFL Merchandise I want to know that NFL is being honorable and encouraging their players to be good citizens and stay out of trouble, not just hide it better.


48 posted on 09/14/2014 7:50:51 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
An NFL Player has special justice under the law...

Don't you think that is the larger issue?

49 posted on 09/14/2014 8:04:38 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: tobyhill

Why is the NFL unlike any other employer?

Is it just the antitrust exemption?

Other than that the law is pretty clear that members of unions/bargaining units must be dealt with according to the rules in force at the time of an act committed.

He will probably win the monetary part of this appeal. The NFL doesn’t have to let him play another down but they have to pay off his entire contract.

I am aware of the “act in the best interests of the league” type rules, but those will probably be held unenforceable from a salary perspective.

He already gets to keep his $13M signing bonus.

He is scum but the law applies to scum and angels equally.


50 posted on 09/14/2014 9:02:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: tobyhill

>>You ever heard of equal justice under the law?<<

That has nothing to do with this case.

This is an employer/employee issue.


51 posted on 09/14/2014 9:05:41 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: Straight Vermonter

>>yes, there can be a “gentleman’s agreement” for the Ravens to waive Rice and no one to sign him but for the league to indefinitely suspend him after suspending him for two games would be double jeopardy.
>>>No, that would be collusion. <<<
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Neither. “Double jeopardy” is exclusively a legal concept and only applies to the criminal courts. Collusion is acts by multiple parties specifically to circumvent law.

This would be at most be an arbitrary act by an employer in violation of a collective bargaining agreement (assuming the NFLPA agreement says that once a punishment has been meted out it cannot be then replaced with a worse one — which it probably does).


52 posted on 09/14/2014 9:10:24 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: tobyhill

This whole thing should be directed at the prosecuter and judge which allowed Rice’s “deal” and this case
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3204056/posts


53 posted on 09/14/2014 9:33:24 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: tobyhill; All

This whole thing should be directed at the prosecuter and judge which allowed Rice’s “deal” and this case
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3204056/posts

sorry for double post


54 posted on 09/14/2014 9:35:48 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: tobyhill

He should turn to dog fighting. The NFL sees nothing wrong with that or any other felony!


55 posted on 09/14/2014 10:27:10 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: tobyhill
"The way the NFL has treated conservatives by banning ownership, using halftime for gun control debates, forcing us to endure the never ending pink ribbon ceremonies, etc., I don’t blame someone for wanting it’s destruction."

EXACTAMUNDO why I want Goodell gone.

His shabby treatment of Rush, and the glorification of Michael Sam, plus the obvious cover-up of the Ray Rice beat-down= Goodell is a POS.

He can take his 40 MILLION per year and stuff it.

56 posted on 09/14/2014 10:32:09 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: RaveOn

I’m not into sports at all, but the players I happen to see and stories I hear makes me wonder, are there any white athletes anymore?


57 posted on 09/14/2014 11:10:58 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Ray Rice spat at Janay Palmer, per report
By Jason Hirschhorn
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/10/6133429/ray-rice-spitting-janay-palmer-assault


58 posted on 09/15/2014 12:08:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tobyhill

Ok, let’s say he is successful in overturning his suspension. What team is going to sign him?


59 posted on 09/15/2014 2:22:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: Paladin2

No, Jim Ed Rice


60 posted on 09/15/2014 2:22:40 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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