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barkley: 'every black parent in the south' would be in jail for disciplining kids
Breitbart TV ^ | September 14, 2014

Posted on 09/14/2014 5:46:15 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Barkley told CBS’s Jim Rome that if tough standards were applied, that would lead to a lot of black parents potentially being in jail.

ROME: It doesn't matter where you're from, right is right, and wrong is wrong. It doesn't matter where you're from –

BARKLEY: I don't believe that because listen we spank kids in the South. I think the question about did Adrian Peterson go overboard. But listen Jim we all grew up in different environments. Listen, every black parent in my neighborhood in the South would be in trouble or in jail under those circumstances.

BARKLEY: Oh yeah, I got beat with switches. First of all, I don't like the term, when the media talks about it and somebody just said on television, beating a child. Listen –

ROME: That's what that was, Chuck –

BARKLEY: Well, we call it spanking or whooping our kids. ROME: If I see open wounds and bruises throughout a body that is a beating.

BARKLEY: Sure. Those pictures are disturbing. I think Adrian said he went overboard. But as far as being from the South, we all spanked our kids. I got spanked, me and my two brothers. ROME: Again Chuck, not now. 1964 is one thing, 2014 is another.

ARKLEY: And that’s fair. I totally agree with that. Maybe we need to rethink it but I think we have to really be careful trying to teach other parents how to discipline their kids. That’s a very fine line.

ROME: Alright, some disagreement here.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackfamily; discipline; dixie; spanking
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To: mplsconservative

Exactly.


41 posted on 09/14/2014 6:44:02 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: livius

Agreed—it’s an issue of class, culture, and limited intelligence. Society needs to intervene, ideally from the church and other civic institutions, but when that fails, as in this case, the law needs to get involved. Even children have basic rights.


42 posted on 09/14/2014 6:46:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

There’s no excuse for beating a child that way.


43 posted on 09/14/2014 6:48:51 PM PDT by livius
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To: Hojczyk

You can’t discipline a child if you lose control.

Some kids only respond to spankings. Some kids won’t respond to being “grounded.” For some kids spanking and grounding won’t work but will have a melt down if you tell them they disappointed you.

The key is knowing what works with the kid.


44 posted on 09/14/2014 6:48:51 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

If you spank your kids, it must always be at a time well after the behavior that called for the spanking.


Punishment must be applied swiftly enough to be associated with the bad behavior.


45 posted on 09/14/2014 6:53:40 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Oh, you too got the wooden spoon!

There was an old story of father who sent his son to cut his own switch from a tree. To the father’s surprise the boy comes back with a twig.


46 posted on 09/14/2014 6:54:50 PM PDT by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: Hojczyk

anyone who went to catholic school knows that rulers do more than measure.


47 posted on 09/14/2014 6:58:04 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: livius

At the other end of the spectrum, the well off could also use more moral instruction. Affluenza is a real condition. Some parents believe loving their child means giving them everything they ask for and allowing them to do whatever they want.

Their children grow up unrealistically believing that the world was designed just for them and when they are confronted with the real world, they find things aren’t the way they were at home. Many of these more well off children find the world so difficult that they decide to end their lives. If they had received some painful discipline from their loving parents when they were younger, perhaps the experience of real world would not have seemed so cruel.

I have nothing to say against Adrian Peterson. I don’t know the situation, or what the child did to deserve the punishment. I do know that even younger kids deserved hard discipline and I also know different types of switches need more or less force to leave marks.

My father used a switch off of a bush that had extremely pliable branches. It was so pliable it was more like a whip than a stick. All you had to do was tap someone with it and it left red marks like the ones on Peterson’s child. People speculating about the force Peterson used seem to know a lot more about the events involved than I’ve seen reported.

Some lower income parents use abusive disciple practices on their children and some higher income people use abusive non discipline on their children. Both are bad for society.


48 posted on 09/14/2014 6:59:13 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: DoughtyOne
Every black family disciplines their children?

Maybe in the past, before the 1970s. I had a best friend in high school, black, and he was scared to death of getting punished by his dad. He and his two brothers kept out of trouble in fear of getting whipped with a belt. They turned out just fine. Then again, they were brought up middle class with good morals and discipline.

49 posted on 09/14/2014 6:59:24 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: 9YearLurker

The black community by far uses the most corporal punishment—and they raise kids who do far more crime. I don’t think that association backs your argument.


In my job I interact with teens every day. You can tell those who are undisciplined. They commit the most crime.

I know a certain violent, foul mouthed, young lady in the care of passive grandparents. I spoke with the grandfather and he said he “tried” to discipline her and she told him to “shut up.”

Are you prepared to reconsider your hypothesis?


50 posted on 09/14/2014 7:00:56 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Hojczyk

no kidding...no such thing as double jeopady being attached. and the news usually beat you home from school.


51 posted on 09/14/2014 7:18:51 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: Hojczyk

So he rolls into town to beat one of his baby’s Mama’s kids to disfigurement? Damn Father of the year material right there.


52 posted on 09/14/2014 7:29:31 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Oh man, you’re gonna get it from the child-beating sadists on this board.


53 posted on 09/14/2014 7:33:22 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Hojczyk

liberal logic smashing into itself.

spanking is not child abuse. beating your kid is child abuse.

libtards can’t figue out the difference.

just like’they can’t tell which people around them could be/are a threat and which are okay. common sense isn’t racist but to libtards it is.


54 posted on 09/14/2014 7:33:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 9YearLurker

The link to criminality is most heavily linked to whether or not there is a man who is part of the household. ...As in a factor of six in incarceration rate.


55 posted on 09/14/2014 7:34:17 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Secret Agent Man

and i will tell you there are white people i see and my common sense tells me they are a threat. my comon sense doesn’t care about what race a person is, howmthey dress, act, carry themselves, th look on their face, and what they are doing, does.


56 posted on 09/14/2014 7:35:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hojczyk

Pending accuracy, these pics are of week old wounds. There’s no excuse to deliver this type of assault on a 4 yr. old child.

Even though I got the switch, spoon, and belt, my parents never drew blood nor delivered my discipline in a rage. It was a serious and controlled procedure.

Albeit extraordinary, if this child would have had the wherewithal to handle a firemarm and planted one in AP’s head, it would be simple self defense.

P.S. This kid will be a perfect participant in the knockout game later in life because his bloody beatings weren’t a big deal.


57 posted on 09/14/2014 7:37:54 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Peterson lost a child to an abusive boyfriend of his baby mamma just a year ago and then he beats his kid?


That’s a cute argument, but facile. Regardless of how you judge the appropriateness of what Peterson did, while quite painful a switch has essentially zero chance of deep physical wounds, much less fatal ones.


58 posted on 09/14/2014 7:40:47 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Hojczyk

I got news for ya, alot of WHITE parents would be in jail too.

Hell, my Mama made me go pick my own switch.

But Adrian P. did go too far, from what I’ve heard the kid was FOUR and he left marks.

Guy needs to learn how to do it right.

My Mama could teach him.


59 posted on 09/14/2014 7:51:37 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

A couple hours later gives them time to stew on whats coming. And keeps you from lashing out in anger instead of as discipline.


60 posted on 09/14/2014 7:52:56 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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