Posted on 09/14/2014 10:56:41 AM PDT by Kaslin
resident Obama is a Christian.
What he means by that no one has ever been very sure. But it is what he claims nonetheless.
When callers to my radio shows claim, "He is a Muslim." I remind them--quickly--that he has only ever said that he is a Christian.
This usually then incites various discussion points about the validity of his claim vs. theirs.
Frequently the conversation will dwell upon the fact that his name is Islamic. To respond to this I simply point out that many former Muslims still carry their given name upon conversion to Christianity.
They may say, "He seldom attends church." A valid point and weighty criticism but still not an essential element to one being a follower of Jesus Christ as Messiah to secure one's salvation.
They will say, "He has treated Israel miserably." Another valid point, but far from being a core component of what defining oneself as a Christian truly is. (Though Christians do stand in solidarity with our friend and only ally in the region.)
They may criticize his former "pastor"--and well they should--because he is not a practitioner of Biblical theology. They may question the evidence of spiritual fruit in his life--yet he appears to live a life with his family that many in local churches can't seem to master.
They may say, "He has said things in the defense of countries (that are not our friends) that appear to be pro-Islam." Of this there is no argument.
This week he even went far out of his way to say that America is not at war with radical Islam.
Which is an odd take on reality, considering that the group we are attacking has ISLAMIC as the first word of the name they identify themselves by. Also odd because they claim the holy book of Islam as their scripture. They established an Islamic state, and named an Islamic prophet whose instructions they now follow.
So you understand our dilemma here.
A man whose faith he claims, while practicing precious little of it, declares that tens of thousands of people practicing another faith, are not in fact practitioners of that faith. And he declares this while being an expert in neither faith.
Head spinning yet?
Which brings us to the letter "N." ("Nun" in Arabic...)
It is the letter that--in the world of Islam--stands for a term of severe disrespect--The Nasrani--the ones who follow Jesus of Nazareth. (Not dissimilar to the "n" word that represents racial degradation in America.) Though it is not a racial term, it is a term of abject dishonor, disrespect, and even death.
It has been commonly used in the battle with ISIS. For when Islamic jihadists roll into an ancient Biblical area like that of Mosul, Iraq, they paint the letter "N" on the homes of Christians. The Christians are given anonymous phone calls in the night and instructed to convert to Islam, to flee, or to die. (Previously they had allowed Christians to pay a tax--under Islamic rule--but when the family goes to flee they now simply take everything they own except the clothes they are wearing.) They rape the Christian women--mothers and daughters--while fathers and brothers are forced to watch. They have beheaded children in at least two documented locations. And they have claimed Christian girls for overnight brides, where over the course of a week or so, one girl may be raped by as many as ten to fifty Islamic men. (Not Yezidi, not Christian, not Jewish, but Islamic.)
Hundreds of thousands of Christians have been literally obliterated, expunged, removed from ancient Bible lands in Iraq. And when the displaced Christians tell their story they say, "But at least we didn't have it as bad as the Christians in Syria." (*Perspective*)
President Obama claims to be a Nasrani, a follower of Christ, an "N" word marked for conversion, flight, or death.
Yet he is incapable--as is his entire staff, of labeling those who would kill him what they are--in word and deed--Islamic radicals.
It causes me to wonder if when the stakes truly count, and eternity is on the line, when his family is displaced or threatened with extinction, will his Christianity have been a banner of comfort and convenience, or of conviction even with consequence?
I know where I stand!
I think Reverend Wright was very clear...Obama was a muslim.
Right....that’s why stephy had to remind him on national TV that his faith was Christian when Obama clearly said muslim.
Exactly
He is a Muslim...brought up in the faith and an imposter practicing Taqiyya perfectly as he was taught to do. The man is a fake, from his beginnings to this end. If you were an employer, would you hire a a person with this shakey history, sealed college records, etc? Well a voting majority of people did in this country twice. He’s not the problem, those dumb enough to vote for this farce are the problem. I blame the education system.
Barack Obama is an empty suit who represents everything that America has come to be. He has no race, no religion, and no principles of any consequence. He’s basically a TV character, when you think about it — which is perfectly appropriate for a nation whose defining characteristic is an insatiable need for entertainment.
Exactly right.
How many Christians do you know who get mixed up and speak of their muslim faith?
Add to that his support for abortion and homosexuality - case closed.
His “Christianity” is strictly political.
Rev. Wright was also a Muslim
Bingo! As for me, proud to be a Nasrani. Hey, that rhymes.
Obama on Islam:
1. “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”
2. “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
3. “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
4. “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
5. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
6. “Islam has always been part of America”
7. “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
8. “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
9. “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
10. “I made it clear that America is not – and will never be – at war with Islam.”
11. “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
12. “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
13. “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
14. “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
15. “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
16. “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
17. “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
18. “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
19. “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
20. “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
Compare those to 20 of Obama quotes on Christianity:
1. “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
2. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
3. “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
4. “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
5. “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
6. From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
7. Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
8. “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
9. “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
10. “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
11. “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
12. “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
13. “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
14. On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
15. “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
16. “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
17. “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
18. “We have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
19. “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra— (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
20. “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
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and he has publicly recited shaheed in Arabic. He definitely knows the significance of that due to his education in a Moslem school in Indonesia. He thus told the entire Moslem world that he, Barrack Obama, is a Mohammedan.
ISIS is naked Islam. Every other kind of Muslim is practicing taqqiya. That’s the problem the Islamic world is having with ISIS - they can’t fault their philosophy, because they share it. The only thing they can fault is the tactics. ISIS believes it is pure because it is not hiding anything. It stands for the abandonment of taqqiya. And because of this openness, it is declaring itself as the foundation of Islam and thus the rightful Caliphate.
The rest of the Islamic world considers them crude and ignorant about the realities of taking on the West through cultural infiltration and political sabotage, and are pissed that they are so brazenly confirming the world’s worst fears about what Islam is really all about.
Nevertheless, the cat’s out of the bag. Either the Islamic world stops ISIS itself and rejects their “teachings,” or ISIS will eventually give the world the final justification it needs to wipe Muslims off of the face of the Earth.
And if ISIS is actually a Western psyop, Islam is in a lot of trouble.
Sigh, now there's some convoluted "logic". We can't object to anything that is not prohibited by ALL faiths? Our faith, our morals are worthless, yet the "faith" and tenets of every crackpot cult out there determine the validity of our beliefs? This is the basest, filthiest sort of multicultural equivalency.
By his reasoning, here in America, we should be able to commit any atrocity that Islam allows and encourages.
If any think they are religious, and do not bridle their tongues but deceive their hearts, their religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.I believe that this answers the question; moreover, it is fairly convicting of me myself — for I do not keep my tongue bridled as I ought, nor do I care for the oppressed/helpless as I ought. [I also invite any and all to read Is 58 w/ those verses in mind, it is quite convicting… but quite hope-filled at the same time.]
Marxist, Muslim, Petulant Man-Child
I have never felt that opposition to abortion needs to be based on religion, it is purely science that the fetus is a unique, living, human individual.
Well how many months went by before they even selected a DC “Christian” church?
And how often did the First Family attend?
Not only did it strike me as insincere, but a nonchalance about a political opportunism, which marks the Obamas. Yet they still didn’t utilize it, which told me volumes about their “faith”
They didn’t have it.
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