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ISIS Fighters 'Three Times as Many' as CIA Feared; 10 Arab Countries Join US in Fight
Christian Post ^ | 09/12/2014 | Stoyan Zaimov

Posted on 09/12/2014 10:20:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There might be as many as 31,000 fighters in terror group ISIS' army, the CIA has said, which is three times more than it previously feared. Ten Arab countries have meanwhile said that they will be helping the U.S. in the war against ISIS.

"This new total reflects an increase in members because of stronger recruitment since June following battlefield successes and the declaration of a caliphate, greater battlefield activity, and additional intelligence," CIA spokesman Ryan Trapani said, according to BBC News on Friday.

ISIS has captured a number of cities across Syria and Iraq; it has attacked minorities including Christians, and has directly threatened the U.S. in videos showing the beheadings of two American journalists.

The U.S. has carried out more than 150 airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq, and has sent arms and advisers to help the Iraqi government and Kurdish forces. Other counties, including Britain, have contributed humanitarian assistance to the region.

Meanwhile, 10 Arab countries pledged to help the U.S. in its fight against the terror group.

Following a meeting with Secretary of State John Kerry in Saudi Arabia, ministers representing Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates all said that they will provide both military support and humanitarian aid.

The Arab countries said in a joint statement that they "shared commitment to stand united against the threat posed by all terrorism" and said that they had discussed a strategy to "destroy" the terror group wherever it operates.

"The region recognizes the danger that has been unleashed and they are full-throatedly ready to deal with that and that is why they committed today to take the actions they have committed to," Kerry said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabcoalition; arabs; cia; isis; isisarmy; obamanewisisstrategy; secstatekerry
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To: SeekAndFind; All

10 whole countries helping the U.S.???

First and last question...

“In what way???”

Bush had 30+ that provided boots on the ground, air power, logistics, bases for support and staging...

What (and where is the list so far) of the countries noted, but no details...

Estonia???
Luxembourg???
Kuala Lumpur???
Fiji???

Who knows???


21 posted on 09/12/2014 2:44:07 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: stevie_d_64
The anti-war liberals called them the COALITION OF THE WILLING BILLING....
22 posted on 09/12/2014 2:52:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably the same miscalculation as to how many entered via our southern border. What a bunch of incompetent b00bs.


23 posted on 09/12/2014 4:16:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: FreedomStar3028
I know that sounds familiar.

Yeah, like it is in a book that we all have read or something.

24 posted on 09/12/2014 4:55:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I want to know where the ISIS soldiers are located, city by city, town by town, in Iraq and even Syria. That would give you some idea of real troop strength, unless 100 ISIS killers can control a town of 10,000 or a city of 500,000.

So far nobody has shown us estimates of where ISIS troops are in control, and by how many?

Then, after having “controlling” troops, where are the fighters and how many are actually left in the field?

Once you answer these questions, then how to deal with them comes easily (I know what to do but I don’t want to tip off the enemy. He probably reads FR stuff because we are the dhimmi slaves he wants to kill).


25 posted on 09/12/2014 5:08:57 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fred Nerks

Now the muslims get to take sides - the mohammadans who want to keep their heads and their wealth have an opportunity to remove the ‘followers of the straight path’ from the face of the earth, regardless of their tribe or geographical origin. Fascinating.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Suadis do not quite know what to do. They know that ISIL is bound for Mecca, and want everyone else to do the fighting for them. This is a religiopus war, yet America seems to refuse to believe that in any way....its a riot to here Kerry refuse to allow anyone to use the word “War” in his presence.

Fascinating indeed.Obama and Kerry have their panties in a twist over cognative dissonance.

Donald Trump has the right idea, that if the USA is to fight for the Saudis in the religious war to extinguish the Wahabi/salafist threat, we at least should seize and take the ISIL oil fields to pay for it.Third time in is the charm!Of course this idea sends the left into paroxysms of
vitriol.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 5:26:18 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: SeekAndFind

Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had all better watch their backs. Obama can’t be trusted.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 5:35:33 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: madison10
Probably the same miscalculation as to how many entered via our southern border. What a bunch of incompetent b00bs

50,000 yutes come in from the south that nobody is allowed to see and 50,000 missing from the isis headcount. There you have it. See? It all balance's out.

28 posted on 09/12/2014 5:43:51 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: riri
'Tis the problem with a mentally stunted, retarded population incapable of thinking--kinda hard to get their attention outside of their immediate gratifications and bread/circuses.

The Department of Education has done their job well indeed.


29 posted on 09/12/2014 5:43:56 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Candor7

Breaking: TURKEY REFUSES OBAMA REQUEST to Use Its Airbases to Fight ISIS
Gateway Pundit ^ | 9/11/14 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 12 September 2014 04:39:07 AM by Enlightened1

Yesterday, Barack Obama stated, “Turkey needs to be involved in coalition against ISIS.”

On Thursday Turkey said it will not allow the US to use its airbases to fight ISIS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3203016/posts


30 posted on 09/12/2014 6:41:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: Fred Nerks

If this was all a movie or book, no one would believe it.


31 posted on 09/12/2014 10:30:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Oddly enough, it does make sense if you consider history. Turkey probably has dreams of restoring the Ottoman Empire. Maybe they see themselves as picking up the pieces...later.


32 posted on 09/12/2014 11:05:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; potlatch; ntnychik; nuconvert
İlnur Çevik 13 September 2014, Saturday

TURKEY HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN FINISHING OFF ISIS, HOWEVER…

Turkey is one of the leading countries in the world to have suffered from terrorism. It has been the target of PKK terrorism for years, costing the country more than 40,000 lives and more than $150 billion (TL 331 billion) in damages and security spending. Therefore, it is unthinkable that Turkey should cooperate with terrorists and extremists of the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). As a matter of principle, Turkey would never pay lip service to any terrorist group, especially if these people are defaming the good name of Islam.

Those who claim Turkey had a role in the creation and growth of ISIS should understand the reasons why these extremists have gained so much ground. True, everyone in the West as well as Turkey supported the opposition forces in Syria against al-Assad, which allowed ISIS to emerge out of these ranks and turn their guns against the Syrian opposition. Assad then saw the opportunity to divide the opposition by supporting ISIS, hence, the advances of the extremists.

Once again, President Obama is saying that Assad should be thrown out of the Syrian equation and the West should help opposition forces. Thanks to the devastating policies of former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, which severely alienated Sunni Arabs and pushed them to seek radical solutions, ISIS found breeding grounds in Iraq, which has led to the current situation.

There is nothing lacking in Turkey's determination to end the dominance of ISIS in Iraq that has become a serious threat to regional security. But the situation has been complicated as ISIS is holding 49 Turkish hostages.

These are the staff of the consulate in Mosul and their dependents. ISIS has been holding them, not only as hostages, but seemingly as human shields as well. To further complicate the situation, ISIS dispersed the hostages into smaller groups and sent them to different locations complicating any potential rescue operation.

So, Turkey's options and possible actions have seriously been limited to gestures rather than bold actions.

The fact that Turkey could not sign the joint declaration of the coalition formed in Jeddah by the U.S. on Thursday is not because Ankara supports ISIS, but because its hands are tied by the hostage situation.

The Americans are the best people to understand this situation, as they too had to suffer such problems when Iranians held the U.S. embassy staff hostage during the initial years of the Khomeini rule.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has to understand and appreciate that Ankara has been pushed into a tricky corner. Yet, there is still much Turkey can do even with its hands ties by the hostage situation.

Turkey can provide logistic and other forms of support to those fighting ISIS like the Iraqi Kurds. With the help of Turkey, a contact group of Islamic scholars has been established that can convince the Iraqi Sunni Arabs that supporting ISIS or providing support for it is bringing the supreme values of Islam into disrepute.

Additionally, Turkey can recruit the help of the Americans to launch an intricate rescue operation to save the hostages, despite extreme difficulties, and end the hostage situation.

Above all, however, Turkey can help transform the militants of the PKK based in the northern Iraq mountains into a fighting force against ISIS, paving the way for their rehabilitation and eventual return to Turkey as those who saved the region from ISIS. This should be regarded as a valuable dividend of the current peace process in Turkey.


33 posted on 09/13/2014 1:34:34 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: PhilDragoo
...Turkey would never pay lip service to any terrorist group, especially if these people are defaming the good name of Islam...

İlnur Çevik wrote that with a straight face, no doubt. Thanks for posting that article, I'll read it again tomorrow morning and see if it sounds more convincing.

34 posted on 09/13/2014 3:04:20 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: PhilDragoo

I would not bet on it...Especially with the current diplomatic cadre of dolts running around looking like they are “trying” to gather up a coalition of the “willing”...

Kerry is the PERFECT vessel of strategic, long term “agenda” support Obama could ever hope for...He’s the two, in the “one, two punch” Obama throws at foreign policy...

Hillary being the immediate salve for liberal/socialist domestic angst that Obama had to install to get this going...

And at the end of the day...Obama will absolutely succeed in setting up a terrible day(s) where a lot of Americans ARE going to get killed, because of these deficiencies...


35 posted on 09/13/2014 3:11:50 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: All

And to verify the obvious...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3203016/posts

Did not even have to hold my breath on this one before I found this discussion...

So...What does this prove, yet again???


36 posted on 09/13/2014 3:15:19 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: stevie_d_64

“Bush had 30+ that provided boots on the ground, air power, logistics, bases for support and staging...”

Yes, and the Left still


37 posted on 09/13/2014 6:34:40 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes, especially in light of what Phil Dragoo posted, I just read a smidgeon and will read the rest shortly.


38 posted on 09/13/2014 6:23:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUjHb4C7b94

the Turk who wrote “Turkey would never pay lip service to any terrorist group, especially if these people are defaming the good name of Islam...” really does need to watch this video. “Good name”?

You gotta be kidding me. A million dead Armenians later.


39 posted on 09/13/2014 6:52:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: PhilDragoo
defaming the good name of Islam. indeed
40 posted on 09/13/2014 7:25:43 PM PDT by SisterK
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