Posted on 09/11/2014 11:24:25 AM PDT by C19fan
Global markets are suddenly jittery about the prospect that Scotland, after 307 years as part of the United Kingdom, could become its own country if Scots vote for independence in a Sept. 18 referendum. If proud but tiny Scotland can do it — which polls suggest is a distinct possibility — then America’s 28th state, Texas, will certainly take notice.
If any state is fed up with the rest of America, it’s Texas. Republican Gov. Rick Perry floated the idea of seceding from the United States in 2009, though he later backpedaled. A petition for Texas to “withdraw" from the United States, lodged on the White House’s “We the People” Web page, gathered 125,000 signatures before voting closed in 2013. A group called the Texas Nationalist Movement has nearly 190,000 likes on Facebook.
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“That sounds great! But back in the real world, Texas Hispanics vote for Democrats. Where there’s enough of them, Democrats win”
And in the real world that’s what permanently altered California. Immigrants from all over the Third World flooded into the state from all over the globe and they vote Democrat.
Even the wealthy and successful ones. Those with ties to illegal immigration more so, but they all do, and not just latinos.
“That sounds great! But back in the real world, Texas Hispanics vote for Democrats. Where there’s enough of them, Democrats win”
And in the real world that’s what permanently altered California. Immigrants from all over the Third World flooded into the state from all over the globe and they vote Democrat.
Even the wealthy and successful ones. Those with ties to illegal immigration more so, but they all do, and not just latinos.
Yeah!!! Amstel? Whatchu drink?
Sure do. Texas is not going to go the route of Scotland, it’ll never happen. As much as I’d support it, not gonna happen.
“What part of the Constitution gives some states to power to boot out other states? “
None.
The Constitution does not give states the right to secede from the Union or to boot out other states, but if two thirds of the states want to amend the constitution in either direction, that might be possible.
“Okay, Jed Clampitt, but isn’t that what y’all said about cotton?”
No, we raise a lot cotton in the panhandle region of Texas, but it would not devastate our economy if the cotton crop failed. We are not solely dependent on cotton to fill our state coffers.
While driving through the panhandle region last summer I was amazed at how much acreage was planted in cotton. And right among the cotton rows were those dang oil and gas wells every few hundred yards. You see cotton keeps the dust down and brings in a little extra money while the oil wells pump that Texas tea out of the ground below.
We have a lot of Jed Clampitts and a even a few J.R.s in Texas. Just like clockwork, they get their royalty checks deposited every month in those little podunk banks all over rural Texas towns. A couple of month’s checks from a good well and you can buy a new John Deere tractor or F150 deluxe or a Ferrari and still have money left over.
Yep, ol’ Jed, he’s a doing alright. It’s really true what they say: “It only takes one good well”.
Nope, we never said that about cotton. You might have mistook cattle for cotton. We have a lot of those too.
There will be no successions in the U.S. If any of the states try it, we will kick your butts into submission, just like we did with the Confederates.
Look, I’m sorry, but Texas can NOT secede from Great Britain. I told you guys to be more careful betting on the Cowboys. Oh, yeah, and worse news: if Scotland goes, you gotta wear the skirts. :-(
Your getting your Hispanics, Latinos, Mexicans, legals, and illegals, and others mixed up by saying Hispanics vote for democrats. Some do, some don’t.
And by the way, most by racial definition are white, literate, and speak English. We know the other side exists.
If you will remember, Texans used to be solidly aligned with the democratic party at one time. As the socialists took over the democratic party, most Texans left the democratic party and aligned with the more conservative Republican party. Texans didn’t turn conservative, but they did turn Republican. Some of these Texans were descended from the above ethnicities. Now many Texans are turning away from the Republican party.
The poorest regions of Texas and the liberals in the major cities can be expected to vote democratic at the national level. This not always true at the state and local level.
Texas is NOT California and will not be judged by its socialist state values. We have a different history and deal with our problems differently. Our economic situation is different. California is in decline, we are growing. Do not compare us to California or any other state.
We know the liberal left is working to turn Texas purple and we are watching them. We’re going to make it hard for them to succeed.
Finally, I live in the real world. I know my enemy and his intentions.
A short trip to numerous definitions of secession on the net will present you with Texas secession from Mexico as one example....which included rebellion as its means
Evidently you missed what I wrote. I clearly said I was speaking of California, where I’ve lived for nearly 50 years. And I do know the voting habits of the people I spoke of.
Sorry, but I thought your reference was to Texas where I have lived nearly 70 years. Likewise I know something of the history of Texas, its politics, and voting habits.
I am a little sensitive as to the methods the liberals will use to turn Texas into a blue state. We want to avoid what you described and are working to resist their efforts.
Not in Texad can you get $15 for flipping burgers.
Lawyers? I’m with Mark Twain on them, no offense.
I suppose you could help the newly independent Texas safe from legal persecution from the old country.
Lawyers are necessary in a free society. I think de Tocqueville’s observations are more applicable to some attorneys even today, especially those of us who are not afraid to tell the ABA what we think about that organization and its goals when they call to gin up membership.
Republic of Scottexas?
I spent many years of my adult life outside of Texas (26 years in the military). When I retired last year my wife said she didn’t really want to move to Texas (she is from Philly). I said that’s fine with me. Just give me your address so I can write.
WE now live in Houston.
Before the 2012 election I made three prediction of what would progressively happen if Obama was re-elected.
1. There would be progressively escalating confrontations between Federal law enforcement and state law enforcement ultimately with the two armed sides facing each other and the governora not backing down.
2. Regional economies would develop with the strongest openly resisting efforts by the Feds to regulate them.
3. A crisis in confidence over the legitimacy of the Supreme Court and its ability to dictate to the states.
Number 1 and 2 are occurring at an astounding rate, much faster than I would have thought possible. The stage is set for number 3. There are multiple issues either at or headed to the SC that will explode if rulings like happened with Roberts and the Affordable Care Act occur.
Texas is rapidly becoming the economic capital of the country replacing California and New York. New York and California will soon be the leaders in name only. Houston and New Orleans are now the gateway to the US and hold the main switch to energy.
Confrontations between the Feds and the states over illegal immigration, commercial regulation, EPA regulation and land control are escalating at an incredible rate even if the media doesn’t fully cover it.
This country is in an extremely fragile condition and unless things radically change, the likelihood that it will fracture will continue to go up at an exponential rate.
The most significant difference between Texas and Scotland is that if Texas and it’s surrounding economic partners split, confiscating all federal assets within their borders at the time of schism and relinquishing any financial claims and liabilities on the US (Like social security or any tax reimbursements), Texas will be in a far superior financial condition than what remains of the US.
I in no way am a proponent of the dissolution of the US. I am realistic and rational enough to realize that it is inevitable if the direction of things don’t change.
Oil is only half the equation. Did you realize that the port of Houston is the second most active in the US and the expansion of the Panama anal is only going to increase Houston’s impact. Combine Houston, New Orleans and Mobile, and you control the flow of energy, food and manufactured goods into the US.
Houston is rapidly becoming the financial capital of the country. New York and California will remain the major players in name only.
“The most significant difference between Texas and Scotland is that if Texas and it’s surrounding economic partners split, confiscating all federal assets within their borders at the time of schism and relinquishing any financial claims and liabilities on the US (Like social security or any tax reimbursements), Texas will be in a far superior financial condition than what remains of the US.”
And if anyone has the power to demand repayment of those liabilities, it would be China. They won’t care to go after Texas, which would be harder for them to reach by water, and they know they’ll encounter stiff resistance.
But they’d easily go after west coast territory, which is largely ruled by anti-war weaklings, who would put a up little fight to protect themselves.
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