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Islamic Rape Gangs: Rotherham is Just the Tip of the Iceberg
Breitbart ^ | James Dellingpole

Posted on 09/07/2014 8:13:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

I talk to George Igler of the Discourse Institute who has been following the Rotherham child rape gang story closely for the last three years. The full story is more shocking than you can possibly imagine, not just because of the ugliness of the abuse itself (redolent of that horrible scene from the movie Taken where smack-addled girls are serially abused in a filthy dive by countless grubby men) but also because of the extent of the cover-up by the left-liberal establishment of social workers, local government officers, child welfare charities, diversity co-ordinators, not to mention the regional police forces and even imams.

Truly this is one of the biggest scandals of our time. And it's going to get bigger.

Here are some of the disturbing revelations in the podcast.


(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islamicrapegangs; muslimrapegangs; rotherham
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To: RoosterRedux
Each child is worth about £200,000 (around $300,000) a year to the gangs - which makes them even more lucrative than the drugs trade.

Color me highly skeptical. I'm sure there's a financial incentive here, in addition to the racial/religious expression of hatred. But I sincerely doubt there's any such number involved for "each child."

I'll bet wherever the number originated, it said "up to" rather than "each," and I'd be skeptical of even that number.

The numbers just don't work.

For a girl to gross $300,000/year, assuming a five-day week, she'd have to average $6000/week, $1200/day.

I recommend the book Freakonomics, which carefully examined the economics of prostitution in USA. Turns out there are two varieties, one of which is simple street prostitution. Low rent sex for money. Prices are surprisingly low, with hookers averaging gross income of $25 to $35 per hour, largely because of competition that doesn't charge anything for its "services." Classic dinner and movie date is a lot more expensive than just hiring a street hooker. 40 hour weeks, $35/hour works out to a max of $70,000/year.

The other main type of prostitution is the type Charlie Sheen and Spitzer patronized. It's MUCH more profitable. But as the book points out, they aren't really selling sex as such, they're selling the trophy wife fantasy on an hourly basis. The top players in this group might make something like the income described in the article, or even more, but by definition they are model types, not the abused street girls of the story.

The girls in Rotherham were most definitely part of the street version, not the fantasy version. AFAIK, they also seldom if ever "worked" full-time.

IOW, the numbers in the article are bogus. Luckily. If there were such financial incentives to enslaving females, the problem would be a lot worse than it is. Of course, the economics of the market ensure that if these kinds of profits were to be made, the market would soon be flooded with competion, causing prices and profits to drop.

21 posted on 09/07/2014 9:31:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: RoosterRedux
It's all part of the Islamic Blood Conquest formula.

Click the pic to link to the full-text Free Republic thread.

22 posted on 09/07/2014 9:31:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Same as in the US. Target ‘at-risk’ young girls using younger gang members to befriend them.


23 posted on 09/07/2014 9:32:04 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Sherman Logan

While the math may not work there is no doubt these crimes took place and no doubt about who committed them.

Try them in a court of law and when convicted drag them into the public square a hang them.


24 posted on 09/07/2014 9:35:52 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: varyouga

In the oldest Christian traditions, the Virgin Mary was 12 when the angel Gabriel appeared to her and she became pregnant.

Juliet, of course, was just turned 13. As her mother had been when she was married and pregnant.

Under English and American common law, the “age of consent” was 12 or below till the late 19th century, when reformers got to work on the issue. In most states it was 10. In Delaware, it was 7!

http://www.omgfacts.com/History/The-age-of-consent-in-Delaware-used-to-b/58707

The above is presented strictly to provide some historical context on the issue. I’m perfectly happy with modern laws and would be glad to see them enforced strictly.


25 posted on 09/07/2014 9:37:47 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Lurker

Works for me.


26 posted on 09/07/2014 9:38:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Scrambler Bob
The money part. Isn’t that like drugs?

Why not. Everything you can make money on is "like drugs".

27 posted on 09/07/2014 9:39:17 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Sherman Logan
In the movie "Taken," there was a line of men waiting for the young sex slaves. The girls seemed to endure one after another...so I guess it depends on how much the muslim slavers charge.

If they charged $50 per, a girl could easily bring in $1,200 a day.

28 posted on 09/07/2014 9:41:36 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Rotherham is more proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.


29 posted on 09/07/2014 9:45:51 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: RoosterRedux

These lo IQ inbred monsters raping all these fair English girls is beyond revolting. If it were up to me each Muzzie with multiple rapes would get shot in the nuts by the female victims and put in prison. I would deport his filthy inbred family that’s sucking down welfare benefits


30 posted on 09/07/2014 9:46:11 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: varyouga
There's nothing morally wrong with teenage brides. Most of our great- or great-great grandmothers were. They were happily consenting, too.

In some cultures, e.g. where there's no payoff to any education beyond bare litercy and enough arithmetic to run a roadside vegetable stand, it makes absoluete good sense for girls to marry young. For one thing, childbearing is at its safest in the teens --- child-raising, too --- when the young mother's health and energy are at their peak, before diabetes, hypertension, kidney failure and the dgenerative diseases of age set in.

31 posted on 09/07/2014 9:50:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: RoosterRedux

http://ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Delingpole_EP58_MASTER_SV1.mp3


32 posted on 09/07/2014 10:00:44 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RoosterRedux

Possibly. However, I doubt a girl would last very long under such conditions, and they’d have to keep replacing “stock,” which of course cuts into profits.

From what I’ve read of this horrible case, the prostitution seems to have been handled on a very amateurish basis, working out of cars and taxis, etc. Not an efficient assembly line type process at all.

I don’t know what the guys in movie were charging, but I know the product shown wasn’t very appealing, and I can’t imagine they would find buyers for a price that was very high at all. BTW, there have been similar cases in this country. Cops broke one up in FL a while back. The girls were kept chained to beds and serviced migrant farm workers. Doubt the charge was very high.

I’m unfortunately not an economist, but there’s a way to calculate purchase price for an asset based on the income it is capable of producing.

IF a girl were indeed capable of consistently generating $300,000/year, then by far the most profitable trade would be enslaving them and selling them to the pimps. But I don’t know how to calculate how much each girl would go for.

In a recent thread about ISIS, members were chatting online about prices for Yezidi and Christian slave girls. They were going for $200 to $350. Does not line up with a potential earning capacity like that described in the article.

However, it’s also likely the market in the areas controlled by ISIS has been flooded, depressing prices.


33 posted on 09/07/2014 10:01:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

http://ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Delingpole_EP58_MASTER_SV1.mp3


34 posted on 09/07/2014 10:01:50 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Gay State Conservative
So many question! But the first “practical” question that springs to my mind is...how perverted must an adult male be to want to have sex with an 11 year old girl?

I'm going to guess that their customers are predominantly Muslim men, who are culturally used to imposing themselves on young girls.

35 posted on 09/07/2014 10:06:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not sure this story is describing teen marriage.


36 posted on 09/07/2014 10:08:25 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle; varyouga
I was not responding to the article itself. I was responding to Varyouga at #15, who brought up what was thought to be the inherently objectionable nature of teen marriage. I was saying teen marriage is not per se objectionable.

Rape is, of course, objectionable at any age. Especially in the kinds of aggravated forcible cases as those described in the article, it ought to be punished by the death penalty.

37 posted on 09/07/2014 10:17:40 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Like you, I think $300K a year is pretty doubtful.

And I think the effective careers of these girls is pretty short anyway.

As to the value of the sex slaves in the ISIS part of the world, $200 to $350 would mean something very different than the value in the UK.

I agree that the business appears to be very informal and amateurish, but were are after all dealing with sand monkeys;-).

I can't yet calculate the value of the girls but overtime we will hopefully learn a great deal more about this business as it is exposed.

I think the reason a lot of it is conducted in taxis is because muslims control the taxi business in the areas in which this is occurring and because it is a cheap, safe (cops are paid to look the other way), and quick way to transact this business .

As a final note, I imagine that much of the money collected goes to protection--to the police, social services, commissioners who keep this horrific crime out of the public eye.

38 posted on 09/07/2014 11:21:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sherman Logan

Correction: I didn’t mean to say that “much” of the money collected goes to protection. I should have said that a goodly sum goes to protection.


39 posted on 09/07/2014 11:24:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I have yet to see a single claim that cops or social workers were paid off. Could have been, of course.

That’s the horror and the novelty of this story. Corrupt cops have always existed, and always will.

Cops who refuse to do their job out of a fear of being called racist is quite new. As are social workers who are harassed and have their data stolen by coworkers and supervisors when they report what’s going on.

Not everybody was complicit. Some tried to do their jobs, but were silenced by the others.


40 posted on 09/07/2014 11:32:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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