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Britain to spearhead 10,000-strong Nato rapid reaction force to halt Putin's 'Tsarist expansionism'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | August 30, 2014 | Will Stewart

Posted on 08/30/2014 2:54:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Leaders of countries sharing borders with Russia led the way in demanding tougher action against what they see as blatant aggression on their doorstep.

Lithuanian president Dalia Grybauskaite bluntly called for the West to wake up, and appeared to urge Nato to give significant military aid to Kiev.

‘Russia is at war against Ukraine and that is a country which wants to be part of Europe. Russia is practically at war against Europe,’ she said.

She lambasted previous sanctions as ‘a big mistake’ because they were ‘too general’.

Lithuania is one of at least six states believed to have signed up to a new British-led Nato rapid-reaction force, the formation of which is expected to be announced this week by David Cameron as Wales hosts the most important Alliance gathering since the end of the Cold War.

Denmark, Latvia, Estonia, Norway and the Netherlands will also join the 10,000-troop bid to deter Putin from what the West sees as an attempt to redraw the frontiers of Europe.

A key concern is that he intends to use his military might to impose a new ‘statelet’ within Ukraine called Novorossiya – or New Russia. What remains of Ukraine could be left with no coastline if the plan goes through.

A diplomat said: ‘Putin is obsessed with Novorossiya, territory won for the Romanovs by Catherine the Great. He wants it back.

'But the so-called rebels in this region of eastern Ukraine, who he praised for keeping Kiev’s army at bay, are his own soldiers, using his latest military equipment. Let’s not fool ourselves about the acute dangers.’

Putin’s use of the Tsarist name of Novorossiya is sending shudders through Europe. While it includes the Donetsk and Lugansk regions ....it also includes such major cities as Kharkiv, Kherson and Odessa.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 08/30/2014 2:54:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hahahahaha! 10,000 men isn’t even a full division! Yeah, that’ll stop him.


2 posted on 08/30/2014 2:58:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah what with Tsar named I know they have tsar named after Vladimir his first name what that about


3 posted on 08/30/2014 2:59:19 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Afraid the first event where Russian and NATO forces clash will be the beginning a new world war.


4 posted on 08/30/2014 3:00:13 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The current Russian army has 285,000 members, including 80,000 conscripts. SOURCE.
5 posted on 08/30/2014 3:06:28 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There is no way any piddly force can have the slightest effect on anything Vlad might decide to do. To think NATO can plop a small force down in the middle of such a vicious civil war is a mistake that has been made by external powers dozens and dozens of times and it has never, ever worked. I don’t see anything at all the West can do wrt the Ukraine other than these semi-sanctions...and that would go for *any* US president. There’s nothing we can do there. It’s somebody else’s backyard, and we may or may not like what is going on there, but nothing we can do will affect the outcome.


6 posted on 08/30/2014 3:07:48 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If NATO sends too large of a force then the Soviets will wipe it out using tactical nukes, just like they planned to do during the Cold War. We can’t afford to lose all our ground forces in the opening stages of the war. This force is really just a tripwire which will commit the participating nations to war once the Soviets attack it.


7 posted on 08/30/2014 3:10:40 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There is no Soviet Union any longer, so I’m guessing that you’re referring to the Russian Federation, yes?


8 posted on 08/30/2014 3:12:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-29/u-k-wants-eu-to-block-russia-from-swift-banking-network.html


9 posted on 08/30/2014 3:14:05 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
You're completely wrong. We prevented Putin from occupying Tblisi in 2008 just by sending a few ships to the Black Sea. Putin will back down if we show resolve. Russians like to bully their weaker neighbors but when it comes to fighting the USA, the Russian cowards run away.
10 posted on 08/30/2014 3:14:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Soviets anymore? Yeah, right. That’s funny.


11 posted on 08/30/2014 3:15:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is a 10,000 man reaction force, it is a great move.


12 posted on 08/30/2014 3:16:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A tripwire.


13 posted on 08/30/2014 3:18:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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That didn’t work in the 1950’s but it’ll work now? More like “ritual sacrifice” than tripwire. Has the manliness truly been bred out of the Europeans?


14 posted on 08/30/2014 3:20:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Billthedrill

That’s a pretty small force to defend so much territory. I doubt they could deploy much more than a significant fraction of that to the west considering they’re still got troops trying to hold down parts of the Caucasus and they’ve got the eastern border to maintain.


15 posted on 08/30/2014 3:21:02 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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Is it still 1991 where you live? The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (Russian: Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик, tr. Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik) abbreviated to USSR (Russian: СССР, tr. SSSR) or shortened to the Soviet Union (Russian: Сове́тский Сою́з, tr. Sovetskij Soyuz), was a Marxist-Leninist state[3][4][5][6] on the Eurasian continent that existed between 1922 and 1991. It was governed as a single-party state by the Communist Party with Moscow as its capital.[7] A union of multiple subnational Soviet republics, its government and economy were highly centralized. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
16 posted on 08/30/2014 3:21:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Billthedrill

It is a quick reaction force to speed up the reaction of the existing larger Reaction force, it isn’t intended to replace the NATO forces.


17 posted on 08/30/2014 3:22:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It worked well enough in western Europe from between 45 & 90 and in S Korea since 52.


18 posted on 08/30/2014 3:22:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In other related news...

UK army cuts may leave army unable to handle threats - MPs

19 posted on 08/30/2014 3:23:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: catfish1957
Afraid the first event where Russian and NATO forces clash will be the beginning a new world war.

You mean the 144 million Russians versus the world, you think they are ready to end themselves now?

20 posted on 08/30/2014 3:24:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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