Why Karl Rove and the GOP Establishment Will Lose Again

American Thinker ^ | 8/29/2014 | C. Edmund Wright

[markomalley]

Karl Rove is at it once again. The so-called “strategist” is again confusing strategy with tactics, and is about to blow easy Senate pickups in Arkansas and North Carolina. This is not merely snatching defeat from the jaws of victory -- this is snatching defeat from the bowels of victory -- in astonishing tone-deaf fashion.

There is absolutely no excuse for not winning these two races.

So how is the one-time “boy genius” doing this? By running ads attacking Senators Mark Pryor and Kay Hagan from the left. Yes, you heard that right. Rove’s Crossroads GPS PAC is insisting in their latest ads in both states that Republican candidates Tom Cotton and Thom Tillis are better liberals than Pryor and Hagan, at least on Social Security. The ads attack Hagan and Pryor for wanting to raise the eligibility age for the defunct program.

Okay. So let’s somehow miss that Obama and Harry Reid are toxic associations in red states. Forget that ObamaCare is showing how big government liberalism is an abject failure. Forget that the VA scandal is showing the same thing. Forget that workforce participation is the lowest in history. Forget that the hated IRS has been outed as an arm of the Democrat party. Forget that deficits are at a record. Forget that the entire country is starting to recognize that our national nausea is almost always being caused by too much nanny-state liberalism.

Can’t mention those. No no. We have soccer mom focus group data that shows blah blah blah….

[Hostage]

My only criticism of your take is that you are of the mind that the GOPe cares what the results are.

They don’t care. They are insiders and have keys to the club. Whether reelected or not reelected they are bought and paid for. They sit at the table of power no matter what their elected status is AS LONG AS THEY ARE USEFUL TO THEIR MASTERS.

Whether they have an office near the Capitol or an office on K Street, they are insiders, members of the club.

The GOPe forms a buffer between the ruling party which is mostly made up of democrats and the ‘extremists’. Their role is to ‘manage’ and ‘marginalize’ the ‘extremists’ on the right. This is what they are hired to do.

So it doesn’t matter whether they are in office or out of office because they are in the club and the living is good.

Example: Bob Dole.

[TomGuy]

Rasmussen poll yesterday showed several of the Senate races narrowing and the D incumbents making slight gains.

McConnell of KY and Roberts of KS are facing serious D challengers this time. Landreau of LA has housing problems similar to Roberts residency problem. Landreau is building a $1+ million mansion — just not in Louisiana.

The GOP may have not get the Senate. It may turn out to be more like 2012 than 2010.

Cotton is now 1 point behind Pryor. Also, Asa Hutchinson (R) for governor has lost ground and is now behind Mike Ross (D).

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One irony:

Months ago, pro-Pryor ads were accusing Cotton of trying to increase the SS/Medicare ages.

More recently, pro-Cotton ads are accusing Pryor of trying to increase the SS/Medicare ages.

[Yogafist]

Why don’t you also post the picture of Newt sitting on the couch with Nancy Pelosi warning us about global warming?

[taildragger]

He did mess that up. He also has flat out said to Palin no third party so, many will not leave or protest the Gop-e.

He still believes it can be fixed or taken over internally, personally I have been on a screed for a couple of years that it is the metaphorical AC Cobra that has been rapped around a tree, it is totaled fer cripe-sakes take to the crusher, stop trying to restore it, it is too far gone.

He of all people should realize he is dealing with a majority in the house who care about their K-Street stream of money more than the Constitution or the Rule of Law.

He is frustrated as well that we got blind sided by the Soro's of the world i.e. when he was warning coming after our SUV's was the beginning. He was right, but did not see it as a bigger cabal and or how to stop it. We are 40 years behind Soro's and http://neworganizing.com/

His books maybe a bit too little and a bit too late...

[taildragger]

You are correct, it is who they play too, not the Constitution, we are so screwed...

[taildragger]

More, one side, the grassroots side, sees the country descending into a dystopia and Karl Rove's side believes there is yet more blood to get out of this stone before the "deluge."

NB...

Their are many of us here who read you with interest. Is this a warning or speculation by you that we are coming close to the end of the historical life of a great society, i.e. we are approaching 250 yrs which seems to be a red flag. FWIW even the most centrist non political types I talk to sense something is wrong and grim especially internationally...

[Flag_This]

"Please....Every rep has a picture with someone in the other party. They’re courtesy photos."

Perhaps, but Newt disagrees with you in this instance:

Gingrich, Dec. 3, 2011 (at a Fox News forum hosted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee): "Sitting on the couch with Nancy Pelosi is the dumbest single thing I’ve done in the last few years..."

And he was holding hands with Nancy because of his belief that something must be done about global warming. So, there's that...

[Sacajaweau]

But it happened....and “Get over it”.

[Theodore R.]

Rove et al. may lose again, but they don’t mind losing. It affects them in no tangible way.

[Theodore R.]

Asa Hutchinson has never had and does not now have a chance to be governor. People there prefer Democrats, not Democrat-copy-cats.

[Liz]

"Nancy, would you please take your hand off my ***."

[Patton@Bastogne]

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I reside in Tampa, Florida, worked the Gingrich campaign.

Rush went on vacation right after Newt won the South Carolina primary. Mark Steyn sat-in for Rush for several days over a ten-day period.

EVERY DAY Mark Steyn ridiculed Newt, over and over again. I was ###### beyond all imagination.

Meanwhile, Mark Steyn made an occassional remark about Romney, but there was no comparison.

Another poster has suggested that Limbaugh genuinely supported Newt, but I disagree.

Mark Steyn had Rush's PERMISSION to launch attacks on Newt, day after day after day.




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[Flag_This]

"But it happened....and “Get over it”.

I'm way over Newt. He's probably the most compelling political speaker out there, but I don't trust the guy. I don't believe he really believes what he says.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Yep ...

Newt Gingrich (architect of the historic Contract for America and capturing the House after forty (40) years of Democratic rule) ...

and Nancy Pelosi (a historic figure as first woman Speaker of the House, albeit an idiot) ...

shared a photo-op, discussing, of all subjects, "Global Warming".



Newt's critics have a field day with this 2008 photograph, totally IGNORANT of Newt Gingrich's later confession that ...

"it was the dumbest thing I've done in recent years."



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Newt's critics then attack his 2008 remarks about Global Warming ...

again, IGNORANT of the circumstances involved

and how Newt Gingrich (along with the rest of America) was DECIEVED by the SCIENTIFIC LIES about Global Warming.



Let's have some straight talk about Newt Gingrich's so-called "endorsement" of Global Warming ...


First, assuming you're old enough “Liz” and “FlagThis” (i.e. experienced, intelligent) you'll agree that, for the most part, scientists' word (especially in published journals) has for decades been very respected.

Right ?

Remember those days, “Liz” and “FlagThis” ?



Even into the 1970's (unless you were still in diaper-land) scientists were assumed to be honest.

Enter the Hillary Clinton "hippie quasi-Marxist generation", especially as they were graduating with all those PhD and masters degrees in the 1980s.

For some of these "intellectual scoundrels" all that mattered was ideology.

Period.

These folks were the kind (like the University of East Anglia fraudsters) who even FAKED the DATA ... just to advance their Socialist Agenda.



Now, I'm a college-degree Mechanical Engineer who's always been interested in the sciences.

And even when the "Man Made Global Warming Data" was being FALSIFIED for years and years, and then PUBLISHED "as fact" in the leading scientific journals, how could even a "smart educated guy" like me (/sarcasm-off) known that the data and findings were RUBBISH ?

I had neither the "correct data" or access to the "inner scientific circle" to have even known that the Global Warming Data was poppycock.



Now ... what's your technical background, “Liz” and “FlagThis” ?

Do you have a college degree ? What subject ?

Let's presume that you do, and that it's in "climatology".

Let's next presume (a wild guess) that you have access to ALL of the correct temperature data (you copied it to a 5.25-inch floppy disk before the bad guys ERASED IT on the VAX mainframe).

Now ... let's further assume (really wild here) that you have COMPLETE and FREE access to all of the NASA supercomputers that the "bad guys" used in their Bravo Sierra climate computer models.

Finally ... let's assume you've discovered the TRUTH about the GLOBAL WARMING LIE.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!

Now ... go get that news story PUBLISHED.

I'm certain (/sarcasm-off) that CNN, The New York Times, Newsweak, The Economist and Rolling Stone will start a million-dollar bidding war over your new revelation.

Right ?

Unfortunately (as you already know) ... wrong ... wrong ... wrong.

Your GREAT news story about the GLOBAL WARMING LIE gets pigeon-holed.

For ever, or until Rush Limbaugh gets a hold of it.



That was rather a long, sad story, wasn't it ?

What exactly does it have to do with Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi making a joint statement about GLOBAL WARMING ... in 2008 ... 2008 ... 2008?



Newt Gingrich assumed that the respective scientists were HONEST and TRUTHFUL.



And what did Newt Gingrich say in 2011 ... AFTER THE FRAUDULANT SCIENTIFIC DATA was discovered ... that his Global Warming statement with Nancy Pelosi ...

"was the dumbest thing I've done in recent years."



How could Newt Gingrich (being a non-technical person) know the difference ?

How could “Liz” and “FlagThis” (being non-technical folks) know the difference ?

How could Patton-at-Bastogne (being a TECHNICAL person) know the difference ?



“Liz” and “FlagThis”, you and Newt and I would ALL been buffaloed by the bravo-sierra data.

So how (being the reasonable man I presume you are) can you make fun of Newt Gingrich for thinking GLOBAL WARMING ...

when YOU would have been BUFFALOED like Newt Gingrich ...

as well as me, too ?



Best Regards,

Patton-at-Bastogne (Free Republic member since 1998)




Meanwhile, take a look at what Rush Limbaugh had to say about the Global Warming Fraud ....


RUSH: You know, there are all kinds of left-wing publications and individuals, folks, who are beside themselves over global warming.

I have an entire Stack of Stuff today on this.

From the Australian newspaper: "Twenty-Year Hiatus in Rising Temperatures Has Climate Scientists Puzzled," and they are all citing a magazine article in The Economist.

"In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity -- the way climate reacts to changes in carbon dioxide levels -- would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded."

Because this story indicates that carbon in the atmosphere may actually be making things cooler, not warmer.

They are beside themselves with rage and anger and frustration in the global warming community, which we know is a hoax now.

That continues to be something that's utterly laughable to me.

We know by virtue of released e-mails from the University of East Anglia in the UK that the whole thing -- the manmade global warming program -- is a hoax.

It's a political hoax.

I realize there are some people who haven't heard this. We have new listeners tuning in each and every day, and I realize that many of you new arrivals here think that global warming is the law of the land.

You've never questioned it, and you think it's happening. Global warming is as real as the sun coming up.

Considering the alternative is impossible, and you believe that people who don't believe in it are literal kooks.

I want to tell you new arrivals about this -- and I know you low-information people are here in increasing numbers each and every day.


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[Flag_This]

"How could “Liz” and “FlagThis” (being non-technical folks) know the difference ?"

Well, being non-technical, it took about two minutes of reflection and common sense. There were these things, you may have heard of, called "Ice Ages". We've apparently had several over the course of the Earth's history. Now, in these "Ice Ages" global temperatures dropped to such an extent that there were glaciers a mile thick where Chicago and New York City currently stand. These ice ages sometimes lasted for hundreds of thousands of years - hundreds of thousands of years. What caused those ice ages? What caused global temperatures to increase to end them. No one knows for sure, but one thing is absolutely clear: mankind had absolutely nothing to do with it. No idiot government program could have started, or stopped, an ice age.

For Newt to jump on the global warming bandwagon makes me question both his common sense - particularly when he wanted to ally himself with that hag Pelosi - and his motivations. It's great that he apparently supports tax cuts, but if he is also for actions that will absolutely nut our economy, to save us from fictitious man-made global warming, his tax cuts will ultimately be meaningless.

Newt still gives a great speech though. No one can take that from him.

Oh, I also found his constant references to his wife, during the last campaign, slightly annoying. I really don't give a crap what she thinks about anything and his constant references sounded completely gratuitous.

[Carry_Okie]

What exactly does it have to do with Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi making a joint statement about GLOBAL WARMING ... in 2008 ... 2008 ... 2008?

No sale. It was obvious to anyone who was paying attention that anthropogenic global warming was a fraud by the mid 1990s. The radiosonde data proved that the mid tropospheric "hot spot" posited by the models simply wasn't there. By 1998 the evidences were overwhelming. Note: the page referenced contains data after that date, but that is only because Dr. Robinson has updated it. The paper was there at OISM by 2001.

Newt had no excuse. The only reason he fell for the scam was that the big money donors wanted it.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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I don't religiously follow either NASCAR, the NFL, English Soccer or Global Warming.

I, like most other (normal) people "have a life", that's usually pretty busy.

Newt Gingrich (and most "normal" people) is in the same position.



You state that by 1998 "all the evidence (against global warming) was overwhelming".

Bravo Sierra. FUBAR. Horsehocky.

The "fact" is that I'm a fairly well read guy ... and I've never even heard of the "OSIM Group" ...

or (with all due respect) "Dr. Robinson".



Cisero, if it ain't "widely published" ...

or only known by a small circle of people ... WITH ACCESS TO THE DATA ...

it's still basically a "SECRET" to most "normal" people.



"No One" (not even you, Carry_Okie)can accurately keep track of ALL business, literary, political, technology, science and economic information 23/7/365.

On the other hand, maybe you "are" indeed (in your own arrogant mind) the "one" exception to the rule.

So ... let's all offer a (kosher) Champagne Toast to ....

drum roll ...

Free Republic's "Carry_Okie" ....

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[Carry_Okie]

I, like most other (normal) people "have a life", that's usually pretty busy. Newt Gingrich (and most "normal" people) is in the same position.

Mr. Gingrich is in a position for which he is handsomely compensated for the purpose of making decisions for his constituents. For you to claim that it is legitimate that he be misinformed about the principal rationale for the primary means of financing an unconstitutional tax on the American people as a funding mechanism for global governance is an appalling use of bogus rhetoric.

Bravo Sierra. FUBAR. Horsehocky.

First you claim the legitimacy of your ignorance and then you play that one?

Good grief. If you weren't such a stupid loudmouth I wouldn't bother at all.

Cisero, if it ain't "widely published" ...

Dr. Robinson's site is well enough published that by the year 2002 there were 49,000 scientists and engineers who were signatories of his climate petition.

it's still basically a "SECRET" to most "normal" people.

Taking pride in being a low-information voter isn't a debate tactic that will get you much, especially here.

[Carry_Okie]

In any event, any criticism of the Republican impeachment of Bill Clinton must include criticism of the lack of unity and the ineptitude of the Republicans in making the case to the people.

Disagree there. The criticism should have been directed to the fact that the Republicans selected the wrong charges, which instead of perjury about a blow-job should have been about providing high-security information for weapons systems to the Chinese in return for campaign cash.

They choose themselves over the country.

Precisely.

They feed off the dying carcass, fallen by their own hands.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Taking pride in being a low-information voter isn't a debate tactic that will get you much, especially here.


Sorry I don't have time to argue with an arrogant fool ...

I'm too busy catching up with "The Economist" and "NASA Tech Briefs", finishing-up this week with "The Arab Mind".

Shakespeare's "Merchant of Venice" and "Hitler and Stalin -- Parallel Biographies" are next on the reading list.




Somebody told me about a "wacko-fringe-religious-nutcase" book published by a (very) wayward geek ..

it's about "getting back to nature", discoveries of BIBLE SECRETS that "no one else" (over 3,500 years) managed to figure out ... WOW !!!!!!

and by the way ... it's written by ....drum roll ... "Carry_Okie" ....



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