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Obama dodges on Ukraine invasion
thehill.com ^ | August 28, 2014 | Justin Sink

Posted on 08/28/2014 2:48:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

President Obama on Thursday sidestepped the question of whether Russia has mounted an invasion of Ukraine, describing the movement of troops and equipment across the border as an "incursion" and "continuation of what's been taking place" in the region.

Obama accused Russia of "deliberately and repeatedly" violating the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, and vowed "more costs and consequences" from the United States and its allies.

"The separatists are trained by Russia, they are armed by Russia, they are funded by Russia," Obama said. "Russia has deliberately and repeatedly violated the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, and the new images of Russian forces inside Ukraine make that plain for the world to see."

More than 1,000 Russian troops have entered the country, and two columns of tanks and military vehicles have crossed the border, Ukranian and NATO officials told The Associated Press. Russia has also reportedly fired missiles from across the border to clear a pathway for the convoy. Reports also said Russian forces had taken control of a key Ukrainian town.

The president announced plans to meet with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko at the White House in the next month, and said the crisis in Ukraine would be a point of discussion at next week's NATO summit in Wales. Obama spoke with German Chancellor Angela Merkel before his statement to reporters Thursday afternoon.

Republican lawmakers, including House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), have asked Obama to say definitively whether he considered Russia's actions in Ukraine an invasion.

"If reports prove accurate that Putin has in fact sent over 1,000 troops into Ukraine to support and fight alongside Russian-backed separatists, this is an act of war against the sovereign state of Ukraine," McKeon and Rep. Michael Turner (R-Ohio) said in a joint statement.

The government in Kiev has said it viewed the Russian activity as an invasion.

"What we registered is a direct invasion of the Russian military into the eastern regions of Ukraine," said Ihor Prokopchuk, Ukraine's envoy to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, according to NBC News.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhorussia; putin; ukraine
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1 posted on 08/28/2014 2:48:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

My inbred Cocker Spaniel could have a better foreign policy than this POS POTUS.


2 posted on 08/28/2014 2:50:42 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Still remaining “flexible” I guess.


3 posted on 08/28/2014 2:52:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It almost sounds as if he knows somthing about what is taking place in the Ukraine, and it isn't good.

I hate to jump to any conclusions with this guy though.

Rumor has it, he will actually take the blame for something in the next ninety days...

It will be the first time.


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08/28/2014: LINK  LINK to regular sized version of Ramirez's latest, and an archive of his political cartoons.

In this political cartoon, Ramirez presents, "Burger King."



NINETY PRECENT OF THE FREEPATHON GOAL HAS BEEN MET.  Lets end this FReepers.
...this is a general all purpose message, and should not be seen as targeting any individual I am responding to...

4 posted on 08/28/2014 2:58:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obama plans to talk them to death?


5 posted on 08/28/2014 3:01:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Nearly 100 years to the day from the WWI and 75 years to the day from WWII a European Nation is invading another European Nation. They will never learn.


6 posted on 08/28/2014 3:02:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

All in puties anf obozzos plan, he will say the same thing when the us is invaded..traitor!


7 posted on 08/28/2014 3:19:33 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: Mike Darancette

That’s right! August. 1914. August, 2014.


8 posted on 08/28/2014 3:21:03 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I have little appreciation for FDR. However, look at this excerpt of his 1941 State of the Union Message (Four Freedoms) to Congress:

“To change a whole nation from a basis of peacetime production of implements of peace to a basis of wartime production of implements of war is no small task. And the greatest difficulty comes at the beginning of the program, when new tools, new plant facilities, new assembly lines, and new ship ways must first be constructed before the actual materiel begins to flow steadily and speedily from them.

The Congress, of course, must rightly keep itself informed at all times of the progress of the program. However, there is certain information, as the Congress itself will readily recognize, which, in the interests of our own security and those of the nations that we are supporting, must of needs be kept in confidence.

New circumstances are constantly begetting new needs for our safety. I shall ask this Congress for greatly increased new appropriations and authorizations to carry on what we have begun.

I also ask this Congress for authority and for funds sufficient to manufacture additional munitions and war supplies of many kinds, to be turned over to those nations which are now in actual war with aggressor nations.

Our most useful and immediate role is to ACT AS A ARSENAL for them as well as for ourselves. They do not need man power, but they do need billions of dollars worth of the weapons of defense. The TIME IS NEAR WHEN THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY for them all IN READY CASH. We CANNOT, and we WILL NOT, tell them that they MUST SURRENDER, merely because of present INABILITY TO PAY for the WEAPONS which we KNOW they must have.

I do not recommend that we make them a loan of dollars with which to pay for these weapons—a loan to be repaid in dollars.

I recommend that we MAKE IT POSSIBLE for those nations to continue to OBTAIN WAR MATERIALS in the United States, fitting their orders into our own program. Nearly all their materiel would, if the time ever came, be useful for our own defense.

Taking counsel of expert military and naval authorities, considering what is best for our own security, we are free to decide how much should be kept here and how much should be sent abroad to our friends who by their determined and heroic resistance are giving us time in which to make ready our own defense.

For what we send abroad, we shall be repaid within a reasonable time following the close of hostilities, in similar materials, or, at our option, in other goods of many kinds, which they can produce and which we need.

Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.”

In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be.

When the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. They did not wait for Norway or Belgium or the Netherlands to commit an act of war.
Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression.

The happiness of future generations of Americans may well depend upon how effective and how immediate we can make our aid felt. No one can tell the exact character of the emergency situations that we may be called upon to meet. The Nation’s hands must not be tied when the Nation’s life is in danger.

We must all prepare to make the sacrifices that the emergency-almost as serious as war itself—demands. Whatever stands in the way of speed and efficiency in defense preparations must give way to the national need.

A free nation has the right to expect full cooperation from all groups. A free nation has the right to look to the leaders of business, of labor, and of agriculture to take the lead in stimulating effort, not among other groups but within their own groups.”

MY QUESTIONS:

1. How will U.S. function in 2014?
2. Can we move obama aside/impeach in order to impeach/ Biden for Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner to take office?
3. Can this generation model the sacrificial of the “greatest generation?”

REMEMBER: Obama to Putin: Wait Until After My Reelection!

March 26, 2012 7:44 AM
Vladimir Putin received assurances about policies to come in Obama’s second term.

In particular, President Obama appears to be assuring the Russians that if he is reelected, he may be more flexible in negotiating missile defense issues.

SEOUL, South Korea — At the tail end of his 90 minute meeting with Russian President Dmitri Medvedev Monday, President Obama said that he would have “more flexibility” to deal with controversial issues such as missile defense, but incoming Russian President Vladimir Putin needs to give him “space.”

The exchange was picked up by microphones as reporters were let into the room for remarks by the two leaders.

The exchange:

President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.

President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…

President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.

President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.


9 posted on 08/28/2014 3:23:13 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Exclusive: Over 100 Russian soldiers killed in single Ukraine battle - Russian rights activists
10 posted on 08/28/2014 3:25:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
In Russia, Ukraine War Hits Home With Secret Funerals, Missing Men
11 posted on 08/28/2014 3:29:21 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s just a few thousand armed illegal aliens streaming over the border. Nothing to be alarmed about.


12 posted on 08/28/2014 3:32:49 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
No one gives a damn about Ukraine, Obama is clueless as usual, Gerries and French are just waiting to sell them for a few Rubles, so much for “it's all grand EU/NATO/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy to destroy poor mother Russia” nonsense.
13 posted on 08/28/2014 3:38:23 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
People flocking to Ukrainian recruitment offices

Военкомат Ленинского и Октябрьского районов #Харьков'a сейчас pic.twitter.com/O8wCjjptZO— Новости Украины (@Dbnmjr) August 28, 2014


14 posted on 08/28/2014 3:44:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Nothing new. In 80’s it took them several years to officially admit that they are losing thousands of soldiers in Afghanistan.
15 posted on 08/28/2014 3:45:19 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
Russian reporters 'attacked at secret soldier burials'
16 posted on 08/28/2014 4:00:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Looks like Obama’s statement just gave Putin the greenlight for this:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkremlin.ru%2Fnews%2F46506&edit-text=&act=url

He calls on the militia to create a “humanitarian Corridor” for surrounded UK troops to escape to Russia, thus saving their lives.

It sounds like an ultimatum for Kiev to begin negotiations with the rebels, couched in Diplo-speak.


17 posted on 08/28/2014 4:24:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: FatherofFive
The Russkies, could get a lot more than they bargained for by invading Ukraine. Recall when they invaded Afghanistan and fled with their tail between their legs. they could be in for a long guerilla war. Let's hope so.
18 posted on 08/28/2014 4:29:17 PM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: kenmcg

Russia has already invaded behind a thin veneer of “rebels” but there is no question now that the regular Russian Army has followed the Spetnaz teams that were aiding the rebels.


19 posted on 08/28/2014 4:31:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DoughtyOne

Read the transcripts of the UK Ambassador to the UN at todays special meeting.


20 posted on 08/28/2014 4:33:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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