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Tucson School Allows Islamic Prayers
KVOA TV Tucson ^ | 08/26/2014 | Matthew Schwartz

Posted on 08/28/2014 9:35:37 AM PDT by walford

N4T Investigators: Church and State

Tucson - It's 12:40 in the afternoon, and in the Islamic Center of Tucson, a time to pray.

Muslims have a strict daily prayer schedule, five times a day at specific times. One of those times is in the middle of the school day.

In a room off the library at Desert View High School, four to six Muslim students pray during every school day for about 10 minutes. Sunnyside Unified School District officials tell the News 4 Tucson Investigators that all but one of the students pray during their lunch period, the other misses a few minutes of a class.

Community activist Richard Hernandez doesn't have a problem with allowing prayer, but with how the administration handled it.

"They failed to let the community know what was going on," Hernandez said. He thinks the the district should've told parents before-hand.

"Anything that happens to your child, it is this obligation of this school, and any school district in Pima County, to tell the parents," Hernandez said.

Our policy is very clear about allowing and accommodating this.

Sunnyside Schools Acting Superintendent Dr. Eugenia Favela told us she hasn't directly received a single complaint about allowing school prayer, she only heard about complaints second-hand. She says she didn't think a public notice sent to parents was needed to inform them that a few students were praying in a separate room. Favela was first told about the current prayer group in an email this month from a Desert View principal.

SUSD's Freedom of Expression policy states: "Students are to be permitted to pray or engage in religious activities or expression in the same manner and to the same extent as students are permitted to engage in non-religious activities or expression, before, during and after the school day."

Favela told the News 4 Tucson Investigators, "Our policy is very clear about allowing and accommodating this. It is not a violation in the sense that we are not promoting it. It would be a violation of church and state issues if we were promoting these views."

There has been significant confusion and misinformation about prayer in schools; some people think it's not allowed. That's partly because the Supreme Court in 1962 ruled that official prayer had no place in public education. But the Court did not rule that students are forbidden to pray on their own, it removed only government or school-sponsored prayer.

Alex Luchenitser is an Associate Legal Director with Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. He says,"The separation of church and state prohibits schools from promoting religion. This probably does not present any constitutional problem as long as the same accommodation would be given to any other religion."

Dr. Favela says if any students wanted to have a group of non-religious activity, the district would need to accommodate them. She says if any parent has a question about the praying going on at Desert View, she'd be happy to answer them, just contact her office.

Remember if you have a story you'd like us to investigate, email us at investigators @kvoa.com, or call our tip line, 520-955-4444.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arth; doublestandard; islam; school
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To: walford

Now is the time for churches to act. Demand prayer time in an individual room as well.


21 posted on 08/28/2014 10:10:08 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: walford

What do they do in shop class? Build bombs?


22 posted on 08/28/2014 10:32:14 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: All

One school suspends a girl for saying, “Bless you...” when someone sneezed...
This school allows only Muzzies to pray...

We have got to take our country back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 08/28/2014 10:37:10 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: walford

I wonder what would happen if several students went into the room and recited the Rosary?


24 posted on 08/28/2014 10:44:39 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: walford

The Farmer and the Snake

Aesop’s Fables Translated by George Fyler Townsend

One winter a Farmer found a Snake stiff and frozen with cold. He had compassion on it, and taking it up, placed it in his bosom. The Snake was quickly revived by the warmth, and resuming its natural instincts, bit its benefactor, inflicting on him a mortal wound. “Oh,” cried the Farmer with his last breath, “I am rightly served for pitying a scoundrel.”

The greatest kindness will not bind the ungrateful.


25 posted on 08/28/2014 10:54:54 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Salvation

because Christians don’t make and enforce the “rules” of their religion with throat cutting and beheading?


26 posted on 08/28/2014 11:06:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: walford

Yeah. And the kid who says “bless you” is expelled. What the (fornicate) is happening in this country? Educators kissing the a$$ of bearded savages who hate us?


27 posted on 08/28/2014 11:18:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: walford
*At least they're not praying to Jesus *

Satan shows his hand so many times when he has his followers (sometimes they are his followers unbeknownst to themselves) attack Jesus, but not false gods.

Our preacher used to say, “Nobody kicks a dead dog”. They've been attacking Jesus and the Bible for thousands of years, but God keeps the message flowing.

Israel cannot be destroyed no matter how many Muslims come after them.

Jesus is the ONLY way to God the Father and Satan knows this. That's why Communists and other Government Supremacists try to keep His name out of everything. They know who the King really is, but they do not want to admit it.

28 posted on 08/28/2014 11:20:48 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: walford

Do they allow Christian prayers?


29 posted on 08/28/2014 11:37:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$)
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To: PATRIOT1876

As I noted in my first comment, the Left doesn’t mind facilitating Islamists worshiping the bloodthirsty war-demon they worship.

Yes, they hang homosexuals, stone women to death, force little girls to have sex with grown men, etc. but their mutual hatred they share for capitalism and the United States trumps all.


30 posted on 08/28/2014 11:49:01 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford (feel free to friend me))
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To: walford

Where is the ACLU to decry “Separation of Church and State”?


31 posted on 08/28/2014 11:49:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hal ogen
Where are all the “separation of church & state” extremists on this??????

What they really mean by that is "Separation of Christianity and State."

32 posted on 08/28/2014 11:53:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Fertile ground for ISIS to grow in.


33 posted on 08/28/2014 12:18:52 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: walford

Typical for Tucson


34 posted on 08/28/2014 12:32:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Yep, I am finding more and more reasons to stay away from Tucson.


35 posted on 08/28/2014 1:24:26 PM PDT by SisterK
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To: SisterK
Tucson Unified School District Sucks.
36 posted on 08/28/2014 1:28:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: walford

A group of Catholic kids should demand space to say the Chaplet of Divine Mercy every day. “For the sake of His Sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”


37 posted on 08/28/2014 1:37:18 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: walford

That’s OK. It’s political expression anyway, not religious.


38 posted on 08/28/2014 2:59:31 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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