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Tea party voters could dump Mitch McConnell just by staying home
latimes.com ^ | 8/28/14 | David Horsey

Posted on 08/28/2014 6:22:15 AM PDT by cotton1706

he dilemma facing the true grass-roots tea party believers -- the dilemma they do not acknowledge -- is that their primary goal of whittling and whacking away at big government undercuts their secondary goal of saving the middle class from the greedy grip of big corporations..

If Democrats have a unifying philosophy, it is that government needs to be effective enough to curtail the economic and environmental abuses of unfettered capitalism. Republicans, on the other hand, preach the dogma that smaller government and unrestricted corporate power serves the best interests of the common man and woman.

The tea party folks have largely bought into that belief, but still are uncomfortable with Republicans who appear to be too much in thrall to big business. That is partly why a big tea party effort was mounted against Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky’s Republican primary. McConnell was rightly seen as the epitome of the GOP establishment that the tea partiers so disdain. Yet, even with major support from national tea party organizations, such as FreedomWorks and the Senate Conservatives Fund, challenger Matt Bevin could not depose the incumbent senator.

Now McConnell faces a robust challenge from Kentucky’s Democratic secretary of state, Alison Lundergan Grimes, who, at age 35, has been alive exactly as long as McConnell has been in the U.S. Senate. Polls show Grimes is in striking distance of beating the old veteran.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; elections; ky2014; mcconnell; teaparty
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To: bert
The 'perfect candidate' thing is a lie repeated by the GOP-E.

Not only isn't McConnell perfect, he's a liberal that supported Harry Reid's liberal agenda by giving Reid critical cloture votes on removing the debt limit and funding Obamacare.

He trashed conservatives, declaring war on them from his own mouth.

Not perfect is one thing, voting for a vindictive liberal republican simply because he has an R by his name is another.

/johnny

81 posted on 08/28/2014 8:52:44 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tanknetter
I'll still predict McConnell loses. I expect a lot of the GOP-E types and incumbents that won hard-fought primaries will lose in the general election.

It's going to just keep getting harder for liberal republicans to win.

And that's a good thing.

/johnny

82 posted on 08/28/2014 8:54:54 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Too bad McConnell isn't. He supported Reid's liberal agenda with critical cloture votes when Reid needed them.

That crucial point is lost on all the Rove FReepers.

83 posted on 08/28/2014 8:59:43 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: cotton1706

no, GOPc .... that is the designation for conservative wing of the Republican party. There are lots and lots of us. The GOPc includes all of the Tea Party.


84 posted on 08/28/2014 9:36:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert
You are advocating foolishness. Your hatred for Republicans is destructive. A Reid Senate is incomparably worse than a Mcconnell senate

You have that exactly backwards. There is NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN PUNISHING TRAITORS. NOTHING. Though the Heavens may fall, still we must destroy those who betray us.

A McConnell Senate is by far worse than a Reid Senate, and I don't think we will get a Reid Senate again even if McConnell loses.

85 posted on 08/28/2014 9:38:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: centurion316
I have never seen a more wrongheaded idea in my life.

Then i'm suspecting your life is either short, or has been relatively superficial compared to my own. I have watched the NRA slowly strangle all opposition to it's ideas over the course of many decades.

Do you know how they did it? When they were BACKSTABBED by a Republican, they threw all their weight to the Democrat. When they were BACKSTABBED by a Democrat, they threw all their weight to the Republican.

You may not grasp this concept, but it is called "Whipsaw." It is how a small minority can CONTROL the outcome of an election and thereby get their way as if they were a majority.

So you think the idea is insane? I think you haven't been watching enough history or politics to grasp why it is exactly the right thing to do.

86 posted on 08/28/2014 9:44:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: tanknetter
Right now, seteris paribus (not even Labor Day yet) I think angry Conservatives will knock that margin back, but not enough and McConnell wins by 5.

And this is exactly why Conservatives need to vote for Grimes. Sitting at home does one vote worth of damage. Voting for his opponent does twice the damage. If people have decided to hurt McConnell, why do the job half way?

Let us pitch this vile refuse over the side.

87 posted on 08/28/2014 9:49:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: srmorton
The effect on the judiciary since Reid invoked the “nuclear option” has already been very harmful and we cannot afford to risk this opportunity to “demote” him forever.

If McConnell shared this view, don't you think he should have not chosen to pick a war with the Tea Party?

Don't you think he should have chosen not to fund this racist hate advertisement?

Or this one?

Obviously McConnell does not share your concern.

My God people! If you let McConnell get away with this you are just nuts. This tactic will get worse if it is seen to have had no consequences to those people who did it.

88 posted on 08/28/2014 9:55:10 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: JAKraig
I’m a TEA partier and I will vote for McConnell staying home means another vote for Grimes, ulgh!

If you let him get away with this, he and others will do much worse to us the next election.

Do you not realize that there is far more at stake here than just one Senate seat? The entire MOVEMENT is at stake!

You will win one Senate seat and LOSE THE WAR!!!!!!

89 posted on 08/28/2014 9:58:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cotton1706

A libertarian has made the ballot:

http://david4senate.com/


90 posted on 08/28/2014 9:58:57 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: bert

“no, GOPc .... that is the designation for conservative wing of the Republican party. There are lots and lots of us. The GOPc includes all of the Tea Party.”

Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Then please disregard all my snarky comments directed at the GOP Establishment.


91 posted on 08/28/2014 10:00:54 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yes, the best chance of getting rid of McConnell is going to be for pissed off Conservatives to cross over for Grimes.

The chances of that actually happening in the numbers necessary to swing the election (given that the Liberal and Black vote this year will be seriously depressed relative to 2008), tho?

Convincing Conservatives to hold their noses and vote for McConnell is one thing. Convincing them to stay home is another. But convincing them to vote for a pro-abort, pro-Obamacare Democrat?

Practically speaking, I don’t see that happening in significant numbers.


92 posted on 08/28/2014 10:01:06 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bert
I concur with your right to disagree, to bitch to moan....... but to vote vindictively for a democrat is absolute foolishness

To vote for a man that has paid for racist attack ads against you is absolute foolishness. If he wins, he will pay for MORE RACIST ATTACK ADS AGAINST US.

They will do it in other Senate races two years from now. Do you know why? BECAUSE IT WORKED, AND BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SUFFER ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR DOING IT!!!!!!!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/16/senate-republicans-paid-mississippi-attack-ads-pai/

Advertisements by All Citizens for Mississippi, which attacked state Sen. Chris McDaniel and painted conservatives as racists, were partly funded by Sens. Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, Rob Portman, Bob Corker and Roy Blunt, RedState reported.

93 posted on 08/28/2014 10:04:07 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Ted Grant
A lot of people simply aren’t buying what they are selling. This is true for several reasons, but they can’t seem to grasp that their message falls on deaf ears, even among many people who are essentially sympathetic to their cause.

The people who have been enjoying the money party don't want to hear people tell them that the party has to stop.

They are drug addicts, and they are addicted to the money. Whether they want to hear it or not, it is PRECISELY what they not only need to hear, but BE FORCED TO DO.

94 posted on 08/28/2014 10:06:45 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I would say that I can’t believe the self destructive replies you have received, but sadly I see it all the time here.

You think letting a man get away with running racist attack ads against us is not self destructive? I can't think of a FASTER WAY to destroy the Tea Party than letting him get away with this.

Do you not grasp that the man has gone beyond the pale?

95 posted on 08/28/2014 10:10:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: tanknetter
Practically speaking, I don’t see that happening in significant numbers.

You are possibly right. I can't seem to even make some people here grasp just why this is so important. I don't think they realize that this weapon will be used against us again and again. The ONLY way to stop it is to nuke those people who brought it into the war.

If McConnell wins, we will see more racist attack ads against the Tea Party, and they will be amplified by the media. It will become "common knowledge", and people will believe it, and our last great hope for saving ourselves will be strangled in the crib.

96 posted on 08/28/2014 10:17:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I agree with you, but I only raise the issue because I think it is true.


97 posted on 08/28/2014 10:29:39 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: DiogenesLamp

I reject your premise. The actions of a single issue lobbying group do not easily translate to political control among the two major parties. A young Democrat elected to the Senate will still be in office when you and I die, and he will never stray from the Democrat agenda.


98 posted on 08/28/2014 11:00:56 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: deadrock

Exactly. They tell us Reid is bad, but don’t tell us what the GOP Platform
is going into mid-terms.
Because there is no platform. No plan. No vision. Only that Democrats
are bad.

McConnell’s RINO’s voted for cloture on many RAT bills.
They forget about that. All the Rove RINO’s here.


99 posted on 08/28/2014 11:08:30 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: bert

McConnell just came out and said he would never shut the government down again. Right off the bat before the election surrender. Do you honestly believe he would dare consider impeachment? With this statement McConnell destroyed the primary GOPE drones argument that a Republican Congress would stop obama. McConnell has just said they won’t.

Aside from vote for us we are screwed up liberals but not as screed up and liberal as the democrats is all they have left to seek votes? That is their game plan?

At this point what does the GOP have to offer conservatives?


100 posted on 08/28/2014 11:19:41 AM PDT by sarge83
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