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DOT Proposes Mandating Cars Broadcast Location, Direction and Speed
CNS News ^ | 8-27-2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 08/27/2014 6:34:34 AM PDT by blam

August 27, 2014
By Terence P. Jeffrey

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, part of the Department of Transportation, published last week an "advanced notice of proposed rulemaking" on "vehicle-to-vehicle communications."

What NHTSA is proposing could begin a transformation in the American transportation system that makes our lives better and freer — or gives government more power over where we go and when.

In announcing its proposed rulemaking, NHTSA is stressing its intention to protect the "privacy" of American drivers.

"This document initiates rulemaking that would propose to create a new Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, FMVSS No. 150, to require vehicle-to-vehicle communication capability for light vehicles," says NHTSA's dryly-worded notice.

What do vehicle-to-vehicle communications entail?

NHTSA has crafted a nice phrase to describe the information cars would broadcast. It is the "Basic Safety Message."

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(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cars; dot; government; tracking
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To: blam

next step.. Personal On Star systems

“wprn by all, loved by all”


21 posted on 08/27/2014 6:47:28 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: dfwgator
At least On-Star is optional, now

Sort of. Hard to find higher end GM vehicles without it, and even if you don't keep the subscription, the hardware is still there and can be reactivated by the company without your consent

22 posted on 08/27/2014 6:47:38 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: blam

And this is where in the Constitution?


23 posted on 08/27/2014 6:47:57 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: blam

FUUSDOT


24 posted on 08/27/2014 6:48:20 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: blam

I think all government employees should wear a GPS ankle monitor.


25 posted on 08/27/2014 6:49:11 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: rktman

The other possiblilty is that they could scramble the onboard computer remotely, and not only shut you down, but turn the vehicle into a boat anchor


26 posted on 08/27/2014 6:51:08 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Arm_Bears
And this is where in the Constitution?

Now you're just being funny.

27 posted on 08/27/2014 6:51:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: rktman

same as me.
I refuse to have a built in GPS, on star, those security Apps, and those other sites like carbonite or other sites which let you down load your info so it’s supposedly safe.


28 posted on 08/27/2014 6:51:33 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: blam
The system will not collect or store any data identifying individuals or individual vehicles, nor will it enable the government to do so."

"There is no data in the safety messages exchanged by vehicles or collected by the V2V system that could be used by law enforcement or private entities to personally identify a speeding or erratic driver," the report said. "The system — operated by private entities — will not enable tracking through space and time of vehicles linked to specific owners or drivers."


Social Security numbers will never be used for identification.

You will never be ticketed solely for not wearing your seatbelt.

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Government promises don't have the greatest track record.
29 posted on 08/27/2014 6:51:35 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: manc

Better turn your cell phone off or leave it at home then.


30 posted on 08/27/2014 6:52:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: blam

There is no need for this type of a system to identify the driver or passengers in the vehicle, just enough information to make its presence known. “There is a vehicle here, watch out for it.”


31 posted on 08/27/2014 6:52:25 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Arm_Bears

constitution, that old piece of paper, that is so yesterday,.
Sarc

You’d think things like marriage was a constitutional right too according to the left, or welfare is a constitutional right.


32 posted on 08/27/2014 6:52:33 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: blam
"At the outset, readers should understand some very important points about the V2V system as currently contemplated by NHTSA. The system will not collect or store any data identifying individuals or individual vehicles, nor will it enable the government to do so."

The important words are “as currently contemplated”

Once the system is in place the recording part will be quietly implemented possibly not even by the DOT.

If this data is floating out there anyone can capture it and record it. It does not have to be the DOT.

Home Land Security will quickly take advantage of this easily obtainable information “to promote the safety of the United States”

33 posted on 08/27/2014 6:53:43 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

actually when we leave as a family we turn the phones off to.

Most times around town I never take a phone with me either, it’s nice not being bugged all the time.


34 posted on 08/27/2014 6:53:57 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: blam

Good. Then I can hack into the car ahead of me and mash the gas pedal so he goes the damn speed limit!


35 posted on 08/27/2014 6:55:08 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: blam

and we need this why? I wonder if someone will actually ask that question.

I’ve said it before, by now our grand parents would have been shooting.


36 posted on 08/27/2014 6:55:24 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: blam
It's for my own good

Isn't everything?

On a related creepy issue. The car I purchased last year has satellite radio factory installed. When the dealer asked if I wanted it activated, I said "never"

Over the past year the calls, emails, letters, unbelievebly cheap offers have been relentless. Same answer "no". With a reason. When I drive somewhere I prefer local radio for local road, weather, and safety conditions. Does a reason shut them up? No. Relentless, still. They even had some poor kid with a reason explaining why I was wrong. Still no, even when it was down to $4 a month.

Well last week I got a letter. Satellite radio would be FREE for three days! I didn't activate it, they couldn't pay me to turn on that dang tracker in my car.

Well here's the creepy part. It's activated! This is a 2013 car. That means they could track my car, finagle that radio on, without me doing anything or approving anything.

Another giant leap forward...for big brother.

37 posted on 08/27/2014 6:55:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: blam

Kinda like IFR for cars.


38 posted on 08/27/2014 6:57:37 AM PDT by moovova
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
Why I drive 80’s Toyotas. One with aftermarket engine management.

Cool choice. I stuck with '60s early '70s Mopars and after rust went with early '90s GMs, as the late '70s to early '80s was a "bad time to be an American car".

My main beef with the Toyotas is that I like a full-size sedan, and Toyota doesn't really make one, and CERTAINLY didn't in the '80s.
39 posted on 08/27/2014 6:58:06 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: manc

Well, at least we can feel comforted in the thought that we’re safe here on FR. LOL! They’re watchin’. Do you use a garmin or something like that? We used one on a trip and it can tell me how fast I’m going and I started wondering if I went over a certain speed, would it notify someone? Hmmmmmm. I did notice that when I was 3mph over, the numbers turned from green to red. LOL! Break out the map Honey.


40 posted on 08/27/2014 6:59:41 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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