Don’t White people kill each other, too?

The New Pittsburgh Courier ^ | August 24, 2014 | Edward Wyckoff Williams, The Root

[2ndDivisionVet]

And yet we keep hearing about Black-on-Black crime because it fits the false media narrative.

The truth? As the largest racial group, Whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, Whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, Whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, Whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, Whites led Blacks, again, more than 2-1.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2012/04/whiteonwhite_crime_it_goes_against_the_false_media_narrative.2.html

Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African Americans to begin shooting suspicious White males in their neighborhoods for fear that they’ll be raped, assaulted or murdered? Perhaps George Zimmerman’s defenders should answer that question. If African Americans were to act as irrationally as Zimmerman did, would any rationale suffice to avoid arrest?

And why is no consideration given to the fact that Trayvon Martin, and millions of Black boys and girls like him, harbor a reasonably founded fear of Whites but are hardly ever provided the deference and dignity that victimhood affords?

The term “Black on Black” crime is a destructive, racialized colloquialism that perpetuates an idea that Blacks are somehow more prone to violence. This is untrue and fully verifiable by FBI, DOJ and census (pdf) data. Yet the fallacy is so fixed that even African Americans have come to believe it.

In Michelle Alexander’s book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, she explains that the term was coined in the 1980s as American cities underwent transformation as a result of riots, White flight and the onslaught of the drug trade. David Wilson, a professor at the University of Illinois, documents the phenomena in Inventing Black-on-Black Violence. Wilson says that instead of attributing increased crime activity to poverty, inequality and disenfranchisement, the media chose to blame “a supposedly defective, aberrant Black culture.”

In a 2010 piece published by The Root, “The Myth of Black-on-Black Violence,” Natalie Hopkinson opines that journalists should follow the direction of the United Kingdom, where the Guardian newspaper banned the use of the phrase. A Guardian stylebook asked authors to ”imagine the police saying they were investigating an incident of White-on-White violence … ” Hopkinson concludes, “The term ‘Black-on-Black violence’ is a slander against the majority of law-abiding Black Americans, rich and poor, who get painted by this broad and crude brush.”

Trayvon Martin’s tragic death reveals the worst ills at play within America’s criminal-justice system. Not only was he murdered in large part because of dangerous, persistent stereotypes, but the failure of police to judiciously respond to the crime underscores the inequities that characterize institutionalized racism.

Those who respond to the tragedy by retreating to narratives of Black-on-Black crime seek to promote it as a defense against an innocent child’s violent homicide. This reveals how entrenched the lies have become and how eager too many people are to absolve both Zimmerman’s guilt and their own tacit consent.

African-American media and policymakers have been equally complicit in promoting a “Black-on-Black crime” anecdote, thinking that it could help address some of the community’s problems; but what it has actually done is provide support for racial profiling and promote the disproportionate policing of Black criminality as “legitimate” and “acceptable.” This over-policing has led to disproportionately higher rates of arrests in Black communities, reinforcing the idea that Blacks commit more crimes.

If we were to talk about “White-on-White crime,” then at least we’d be addressing issues like gun violence in a racially neutral way. That doesn’t happen because too many Americans remain convinced that Black or brown people are the problem. Respected journalists like George Will further perpetuate lies as fact when they make blanket statements that support an ill-conceived narrative.

This article originally appeared April 10 2012 at The Root: http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2012/04/whiteonwhite_crime_it_goes_against_the_false_media_narrative.2.html

[sagar]

Whites don’t always kill each other, but when they do, they call it World Wars.

[blueplum]

according to wiki, whites are 72% of the population. The author states whites only outdistance the ethnic groups in crime by 2-1. That doesn’t say much for ethnic groups. (72% includes hispanics identifying as white)

[txrefugee]

Yes, but Blacks are only 12% of the population. They are far more crime-prone than Whites. Should have taken some Math in college instead of Black Studies.

[Jack Hydrazine]

They breath but they can’t jump!

[BipolarBob]

That wasn't his first time to get shot or second.

[skeeter]

This man’s mind exists in another dimension.

[plain talk]

It is rather embarrassing to see such mathematical ignorance on display.

[DannyTN]

kill each other? That wouldn’t be very white of us!

[catnipman]

Per-Capita, blacks commit 800% more murders based on available data from 1980 to 2008.

Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000) (table 1).
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

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[Sherman Logan]

With respect to aggravated assault, Whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, Whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1.

I suspect there's some fancy footwork going on here.

FBI tracks race of perp as reported by the victim, and they also track race of those arrested.

Since most black crime is committed against other blacks, and there is a massive campaign in the black community to "Stop Snitching," I would be willing to bet fewer crimes committed against blacks result in arrest.

So the statistics to look at would be those from victim interviews as to race of the perp, not arrests.

But I don't have time to track down exactly how much he has intentionally distorted the record by these comments.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Withdrawal from an addiction which for decades was your sole means of support is impossible. The Jacksons, Sharptons, Holders, et al are doomed.

They are losing their Black Privilege which bestows upon them the sole authority to define race matters.

Jackson says: "blacks kill whites, which is rare;" compared to murders among same race, yes. But look at the interracial numbers.

Some facts FBI Homicides Statistics

I do not know about the posted article but it is about crime and that is what the government is suppose to keep accurate account.

Year of Stats	Race of Victims	Total	White Offenders	Black Offenders	Unknown & other
2009	White	3,518	2,963	454	101
	Black	2,867	209	2,604	54
2008	White	3,643	3,036	504	103
	Black	3,024	230	2,722	72
2007	White	3,587	2,918	566	103
	Black	3,221	245	2,905	71
2006	White	3,709	3,026	573	110
	Black	3,303	208	3,034	61
2005	White	3,785	3,150	516	119
	Black	3,289	230	2,984	75
2004	White	3,727	3,123	522	85
	Black	3,067	228	2,784	55
1995	White	4,954	4,124	699	131
	Black	4,764	281	4,422	61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

Here's 2008

Here's 2010 (not shown above)

Here's access to the rest. www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S.

Crime in the United States, YYYY U.S. Department of Justice — Federal Bureau of Investigation Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter Table 43a Arrests by Race Includes all ages.

YEAR		Total		White		Black		American Indian or Alaskan Native		Asian or Pacific Islander			Total		White		Black		American Indian or Alaskan Native		Asian or Pacific Islander
2008		9,859		4,721		4,935		99		104			100.0		47.9		50.1		1.0		1.1
2009		9,739		4,741		4,801		100		97			100.0		48.7		49.3		1.0		1.0
2010		8,641		4,261		4,209		91		80			100.0		49.3		48.7		1.1		0.9
2011		8,341		4,000		4,149		105		87			100.0		48.0		49.7		1.3		1.0
2012		8,506		4,101		4,203		102		100			100.0		48.2		49.4		1.2		1.2

The arrests are about even. But which race outnumbers the other by about nine to one? And which race includes Hispanic gang bangers?

I was surprised to find FBI victim/offender race data released during the Obama Administration. The DoJ survey (emphasis on survey) of crime victims after 2008 no longer has the (DoJ survey not FBI)Table 42 data. If someone knows where the Table 42 data are displayed for year 2009 and beyond please let me know. Thanks.

[pgkdan]

Whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, Whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, Whites led Blacks, again, more than 2-1.

Yep...and whites outnumber blacks 6 or 7 to 1!

Blacks are just 13% of the population yet they are responsible for over 50% of the murders committed in this country and 90% of those murder victims are other blacks.

There is no false narrative regarding black on black crime or of the violent and irresponsible nature of the black population in this country.

[wgmalabama]

White Americans of European descent comit less crimes than all other groups except Asians. Period. As a numerical number, as a percentage don’t matter how you count it. If you throw the numbers appropriately it works out that black are 20+ times more likely and Latino are 8 times more likely than white Americans to commit violent crime. I believe as economics and society continue down the course it’s on those multipliers will continue to hold up as overall # increase.

The miss classification of white is intentional

[smokingfrog]

Say what? Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.

[Blue Collar Christian]

And whites outnumber blacks, what, 5 to 1. So, bruthu, blacks commit 5 TIMES the violent crime per capita vs white criminals. Put that in your racist rant pipe and smoke it.

[JimSEA]

“Math challenged....”

To say the least. The article is almost totally irrational. It would take a while to identify all the logical fallacies he uses. I kind of hope he has some form of brain damage rather than this being the normal way he thinks.

[Da Coyote]

I was going to comment on the almost laughable math ability of the author, but the good readers have done done a fine job of exposing what is really typical liberal ineptness in things of the mind.

[Sooth2222]

According to FBI Statistics, of US homicides where the race of the offender is known, more than half of murderers are black. Murder Offenders by Age, Sex, and Race, 2011

"Murder" is probably a more accurate indicator than "violent crime". First, because it's difficult to hide the bodies, and second, because not all groups report other violent crimes (forcible rape, robbery) to the police at the same rate.

[ladyjane]

Clearly not a statistics major...

You're so mean. He got an A+ on this paper when he was in college.