Posted on 08/21/2014 5:49:06 AM PDT by Borges
ATLANTA — An old Jewish joke goes like this: “What’s the definition of a Jewish telegram? ‘Start worrying. Details to follow.’ ”
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This is a question directed at someone with an historical knowledge of the time.
The article states, “It’s true that this is not the anti-Semitism of the 1930s, which came from the right and was rooted in longstanding Christian views that demonized the Jews.”
Is that true? Your comments are appreciated.
It’s true that this is not the anti-Semitism of the 1930s, which came from the right and was rooted in longstanding Christian views that demonized the Jews. Traditionally, Islam did not treat Jews this way.
It’s about anti-semitism in Europe and most liberal’s dismissiveness of it.
The author actually blames Christians for Muslim anti-semitism.
Why does Lipstadt have to badmouth Christians and valorize Islam to make her point?
To earn ‘even handedness’ bona fides.
Only if you retroactively define the likes of democrat and Grand Klegle Robert Byrd and his KKK buries as right wing.
Only if you re-define Nazism (National SOCIALISM) as right wing.
Only if you think the neo-pagen state religion of Nazi Germany, with it’s symbol of a broken and twisted cross is Christian.
Then, if you happen to have a big enough axe to grind, you can claim it was right wing Christians, I suppose
Does she valorize the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem too?
She’s a college professor steeped in liberalism. Can’t be one of those without denigrating Christians.
Martin Luther held to some very anti semitic beliefs I believe.
The communists, fascists and national socialists were not on “the right”, so I don’t know where she got that from.
Because that truly is THE war going on.
Christ and His People vs the World/Satan and his people (including Lipstadt).
Is that true? Your comments are appreciated.
Nazi anti-semitism was not rooted in Christian views. It was more due to an intense nationalism that saw Jews as not being "true Germans", but rather, interlopers from other parts of the world. They were also contemptuous of Slavic peoples.
“the right” = less government, more self-governance.
There is nothing in communist, fascist, or socialist movements that corresponds.
This fiction is vital to liberal Jews. Without it, they'd have to admit the real basis for they're support of the left.
Well, yes, IF and ONLY IF the Jews submit to "dhimmi" status, pay the "jizya" tax on infidels, and are properly subservient to Islamic rule.
In the Islamic view, the sin of the Jews is that the rebuffed Islamic rule, and dared to fight against the Muslims when attacked.
they’re=their
If the Jew is smart, he's a conniving clever ,tricky Jew.
If the Jew is dumb, he's a burden on society and a no good bum.
If the Jew is wealthy, he is a Rich Capitalist.
If the Jew is poor he is a Socialist rabble-rouser.
If he owns a business, he is an exploiter of others.
If he is a worker, expounding rights, he's a Socialist, trouble-maker.
If he supports the Left, he's a Commie.
If he supports the Right, he's a “Neo-Con”.
If he is weak, he's a leach to be beaten upon.
If he is tough, he's got chutzpah.
If he sits near power centers, he's part of a Jewish Conspiracy and Cabal.
If he is not involved, he doesn't care.
If he is killed and defenseless, he's a sheep to slaughter.
If he is a tough Israeli, he's a Hawk oppressor.
If he observes his rituals and laws, he's “clannish”.
If he tries to assimilate, he's “polluting” other races.
If he shows advancement in all fields he endeavors ,he's an elitist and a braggart.
If he lags behind advancement, he's a Shtetl primitive.
If he's supporting other people's causes, he's meddling in the affairs of others.
If he remains aloof to others suffering, he's cold hearted.
Only Antisemitism attacks Jews no matter where they are on the spectrum of life, rich, poor, Left, Right, bumbling, assertive in death and in life.
What other hate crime sees Jews attacked while alive and their graves desecrated long after they've died? People actually dig up Jewish graves and assault remains!
If he warns the world about Antisemitism, he's a Paranoid. If he sits back from the world stage, he's "tribal". You see, Antisemitism is the Jews’ fault after all. Jews are blamed for non-Jews hating them as well. Jews brought it upon themselves, right?
This is a very unique hatred. It is not a Jewish problem, it is a non-Jewish problem and always has been.
Unfortunately, it is a historical misconception that has been accepted in Western society that the fascists, including the Nazis, were right wing. It is only conservatives who know that Nazism was collectivism (the word Nazi is short for National Socialism).
By conflating the leftist, anti-Christianity, Nazi party and its fascist cousins in Italy, Spain and elsewhere, liberals unfairly draw a straight line to the Nazi concentration camps from the Christianity-based anti-Semitism of the 19th century (the “Hep Hep” riots in Austria and the kidnapping of Edgar Mortara being the most egregious examples).
Unfortunately, this myth, which was popularized by Stalin and the Soviet Union in general, remains one of the biggest obstacles to the ability of the Conservative movement to attract Jews. Many Jews are afraid that if they scratch a Conservative they will find an anti-Semite, and so they shrink away from learning what we stand for.
In my opinion, one of the most important efforts that the Conservative mlvement could undertake would be to popularize the fact that collectivism is left-wing and that Conservatives were revulsed by the Nazis.
The other historical truth that has to be popularized is that the Republican party was founded as an anti-Slavery party and always has stood for equality of opportunity for all. It is a truism in American culture that the Republicans are racists, and this has kept American blacks and college students from understanding that the Republican party is much closer to their values than the Democrat party is.
First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.~Pastor Martin Niemöller
Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.
When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.
Strength of community is a strength as much as individualism, as long you are willing to face weaknesses in your own community. Ignoring slacking values will mean that you will be rallied against by those you oppress.
Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!
~Vexen Crabtree
The European Right is very different from the American Right. The former is Statist and authoritarian - hence Nazis and Fascists get tagged as Right.
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