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Column defending cops in Ferguson sparks online fury
WXMI-TV / CNN ^ | August 20, 2014

Posted on 08/20/2014 2:35:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In a single column, a veteran police officer has catapulted himself into the national debate over the death of unarmed teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.

“I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me,” the Washington Post headline blares. The piece was written by Sunil Dutta, a 17-year veteran of the Los Angeles Police Department.

“Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you,” he wrote.

Dutta cautions against arguing, insulting, or screaming at officers, “and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?”

If you believe an officer is violating your rights or bullying you, Dutta says, don’t challenge him then — save that for lodging a complaint later. “Do what the officer tells you to and it will end safely for both of you.”

It took no time for the anger over his message to explode.

“The outrageous thing is not that he says it. The outrageous thing is that we accept it,” writes Ken White of the blog Popehat, which tracks American legal issues.

“Do we have a justice system? By name, yes. Is it effective in deterring cops from abusing citizens or punishing them when they do? No… If you hope the cop will be charged criminally for misbehavior, you’re going to be waiting a very long time for no result.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: fascism; ferguson; lawenforcement; police
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To: demshateGod

“I hate the protesters in Ferguson, but this cop is a bigger threat to my liberty. “

OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT READ WHAT THE COP ACTUALLY SAID!


21 posted on 08/20/2014 2:55:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Jim Robinson

All that I want is for the “cops” to be held accountable to the same standards as a “civilian”.


22 posted on 08/20/2014 2:57:48 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: JimRed

Yeah, that’s right. The thing Big Mike should have done was to demand to see a warrant (as opposed to beating the crap out of the cop).


23 posted on 08/20/2014 2:58:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I’ll call you the next time I need someone here to protect me. Can you be here in about five minutes, willing to risk your life?


24 posted on 08/20/2014 2:59:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yup. And Big Mike definitely tried to do that. Guess he thought beating the crap out of the cop would teach him a lesson about accountability.


25 posted on 08/20/2014 3:00:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: demshateGod
but this cop is a bigger threat to my liberty.

He'd advocating that you stick up for rights, but he's also telling you to pick your place of battle wisely.

26 posted on 08/20/2014 3:00:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: JimRed

“That part sticks in my craw. For instance, I’ve often heard that you don’t let them into your home or search your vehicle without a warrant. Doesn’t “just do as I say” apply there? “

Dutta talks about that. He says you should stand up for your rights but not get in the cops face about it. Keep it civil.


27 posted on 08/20/2014 3:01:04 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: demshateGod
this cop is a bigger threat to my liberty.

Why? You like to give back talk to cops? You can't be polite to a cop?

28 posted on 08/20/2014 3:03:48 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jim Robinson

Big Mike deserved what he got.
Hopefully you and I would be given the same if faced with the same.


29 posted on 08/20/2014 3:05:18 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let's just turn that around a bit to see how he likes it:

“Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, obey the constitution and understand you work for me.”

30 posted on 08/20/2014 3:05:35 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FReerepublic: Bring a FRiend!)
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To: trisham

Don’t hold your breath, I am not coming to your aid.
My point being, if it was you being assaulted,
and you stopped the threat, would you be off the hook?
I think the cop was justified, but would you be justified?


31 posted on 08/20/2014 3:07:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Are you claiming Officer Wilson violated the constitution?


32 posted on 08/20/2014 3:07:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I didn’t think you would.


33 posted on 08/20/2014 3:08:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Because Dutta is speaking in terms of those type of actions.

That statement makes me wonder if you even read Dutta's editorial.

NO matter, all you really need to read is the title:

I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.

Here's the range of actions that Dutta won't tolerate:

Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me.

He goes on

But if you believe (or know) that the cop stopping you is violating your rights or is acting like a bully, I guarantee that the situation will not become easier if you show your anger and resentment.

Amazing. Even if you KNOW that your rights are being violated, you may not show your emotion to Masa Dutta.

There's quite a bit of distance between punching a cop in the face (ala Big Mike) and sighing because you are frustrated with a cops actions.

34 posted on 08/20/2014 3:10:06 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: trisham

No even sure that I would want to.


35 posted on 08/20/2014 3:13:35 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
I've been stopped 4 times in the last 10 years.

3 warnings and a $15 "no seat-belt" ticket.

Did I show respect? What do you think?

36 posted on 08/20/2014 3:13:40 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: dhs12345
in riots there are no peaceful protesters...its a media mirage...During Viet nam the (peaceful) were white, and they peacefully bombed building, killed people, set universities on fire, and now they are in office in Washington. During the Detroit riots the peaceful protesters were black and set the inner city on fire as they did with other cities...During the democrat convention in Chicago back in the 60's the peaceful protesters were white and it only stopped when the mayor sent in the national guard....that riot police were pelted with rocks and one of their tactics was to push large nails into tennis balls to toss at the cops, threw bags of urine at the police, threw feces etc....how do I know this, my friends brother was part of the police force.....yet according to the media, it was the peaceful protesters that were the victims. Its never the fault of anarchists that love a good riot...The media of the day never mentioned their tactics just like they don't today... some things never change...
37 posted on 08/20/2014 3:14:10 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Repeal The 17th

I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.


38 posted on 08/20/2014 3:15:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

If you react violently to a police officer, you’re putting him and yourself both at risk.


39 posted on 08/20/2014 3:18:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Dutta's full piece: I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.
40 posted on 08/20/2014 3:19:03 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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