Posted on 08/20/2014 8:25:52 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman spoke with Fox News host Megyn Kelly about the incident, giving his opinion on the matter, where he stated that he believed the evidence clearly indicates that Brown was the aggressor.
“You can’t predict nor explain what people do on the street, especially in situations like this. Michael Brown from the onset of me reading and catching up on this story, he has appeared to be the aggressor from the very beginning. Whether at the robbery or the contact with the police officer, he appears to be the aggressor.”
“The office didn’t even have a chance to get out of the car before Michael Brown was on him. Now the officer knows he’s confronting a robbery suspect, he doesn’t know if he’s armed, and that suspect is now assaulting a uniformed police officer, so that is a bold act all unto itself. Having the opportunity to flee and yet returns around and charges the officer is fairly consistent with his first act.”
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Truth, he hung in there and made the shots even after getting a busted eye socket. Outstanding.
His perception on the left is exactly what the problem w/ the POlice is seen to be.
Not only will it not convince anyone that Warren's actions were justified it will inflame additional passion on the left.
Don't shoot me, I'm just sayin'.
The cop was a pretty bad shot also.
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I think that this is a little bit like the old saying: Any plane landing where you walk away is a good landing.
Any group of shots that stops the perp is a good shot.
The cop was using one eye (the other one had been smashed). Given that and the fact he had just seconds to stop a 300 lb kid who was head down bum rushing him I'd say he did pretty well.
It’s obvious Wilson tried to stop him without killing him since the shots were away from the heart but the last two must have caught his head since it was in a down position running toward Wilson. IMHO
Bo is in the business of making fast food commercials now and blacks buy a lot of Arbys. He isn't going to poison that gig - he will stay far away from this controversy.
Get your eyesocket broken by a punch, and see how that affects your aim, with only seconds to recover from the punch. Do you realize how hard it is to break bones in a skull with a fist? If I was the coroner, I would X-ray the guys hands to see if any of the bones in his hand or fingers were broken, along with checking for skin and tissue damage consistent with throwing a hard punch. Unfortunately, I take this from personal experience, and a heavy bare knuckle punch will wreck something in your hand.
He did just receive a blowout punch to the eye.
When target practicing you’re taught to pull back on the trigger slow and steady, but when you’re under duress like Officer Wilson, you don’t have time for slow and steady.
“The cop was a pretty bad shot also.”
Huh? Six shots, six hits and you call that ‘bad’?
That’s been my feeling as well. I think the officer was trying to stop him with non-lethal shots or that Michael was leaning and leading with his right side. Either way the end result is the same; two lives ruined forever. One is dead and the other will be forever damaged by the event, perhaps even being stalked by “justice” seekers. It’s a high price to pay for just doing your job.
The officer had damage in one eye from being punched by Michael Brown, so maybe his aim was bit off. I tend to think since 3 bullets went into Brown’s arm first, the officer may have thought those shots would have been a deterrent to stop Brown charging at him. I tend to think, Brown was drugged up with more than marijuana...still waiting for further toxicology reports. Things are leaking out now that St. Michael’s halo had a bit of tarnish.
You know I was thinking the guy was a pretty bad shot also but Mr GG2 theorized that the guy might have been trying to just stop Brown in the beginning with non fatal shots. Then when he kept coming he had to finish him.
An Open Letter to Captain Ronald S. Johnson
Chief Ed Delmore |
I have to call you out.
I don’t care what the media says. I expect them to get it wrong and they often do. But I expect you as a veteran law enforcement commander—talking about law enforcement—to get it right.
Unfortunately, you blew it. After days of rioting and looting, last Thursday you were given command of all law enforcement operations in Ferguson by Governor Jay Nixon. St. Louis County PD was out, you were in. You played to the cameras, walked with the protestors and promised a kinder, gentler response. You were a media darling. And Thursday night things were better, much better.
But Friday, under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown. At the same time the Ferguson Police Chief released a video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just 10 minutes before he was confronted by Officer Darren Wilson.
Many don’t like the timing of the release of the video. I don’t like that timing either. It should have been released sooner. It should have been released the moment FPD realized that Brown was the suspect.
Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.
Boy did it.
And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.
Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.
Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.
On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.
On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.
So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.
Allegedly, Brown pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson’s gun. We’re also being told that Officer Wilson has facial injuries suffered during the attempt by Brown to disarm him. Let’s assume for a moment those alleged acts by Brown actually occurred. Would Brown have responded violently to an officer confronting him about jaywalking? Maybe, but probably not.
Is it more likely that he would attack an officer believing that he was about to be taken into custody for a felony strong-arm robbery? Absolutely.
Officer Wilson survived the encounter with Brown as did Lee, Hangar, and Postell. Michael Brown didn’t survive and it’s too soon to say if Officer Wilson’s use of deadly force was justified and legal. You and I both know that not all officers survive such confrontations. Officers die in incidents like this Captain Johnson, including a couple that I remember from your own organization:
On April 15, 1985 Missouri Trooper Jimmie Linegar was shot and killed by a white supremacist he and his partner stopped at a checkpoint; neither Trooper Linegar nor his partner were aware that the man they had stopped had just been indicted by a federal grand jury for involvement in a neo-Nazi group accused of murder. The suspect immediately exited the vehicle and opened fire on him with an automatic weapon.
Just a month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Froemsdorf was shot and killed—with his own gun—after making a traffic stop. When the Trooper made that stop he didn’t know that the driver was wanted on four warrants out of Texas—But again the suspect knew it.
So Captain Johnson, I guess the mindset and recently committed crimes of the suspects that murdered those Missouri Troopers didn’t mean anything. The stops by the Troopers, as you have said, are entirely different events right?
Bullshit.
http://m.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j
In 1983 Fuhrman tried to get a disability retirement from the LAPD. He claimed that he had thoughts of violence and could no longer function as a police officer. The LAPD denied the request.
In 1996 Fuhrman was convicted of perjury, making him a felon. It was related to the OJ Simpson case. In that trial, Fuhrman was asked if he had used the n- word in the last 10 years. Fuhrman said no. The defense then produced multiple evidence that that was a lie.
This has stuck with me because after the Simpsontrial (a travesty if there ever was one) I read an article by lawyer. It was the lawyer's opinion the Simpson went free mainly because the jury was so disbelieving of Fuhrman. Maybe true, maybe not. But it does make some sense.
I made a similar comment before it became public that the cop had an eye injury caused by the Gentle Giant's fist. I now realize how wrong I was.
As far as as general public opinion is concerned, his opinion is considered valueless and suspect.
Unfair, but so is reality.
He single-handedly destroyed the prosecution in the OJ case.
The last TWO shots, each a fatal wound [...]Maybe not, I read that the second to last shot was probably not fatal.
As the feral thug charged, he lowered his head like a raging bull so that his head was tilted such that the shot passed through the front of his eye and entered his cheekbone, traveled down through his face, exited under his jaw, stopping in his collarbone. Unlike the arm hits, that shot would have probably taken the steam out his rage if he hadn't immediately been hit in the top of the forehead by the next shot. This shot probably ended up bouncing around at the bottom of his skull thus totally trashing his brain stem, resulting in instant death.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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