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Hetchy Hetchy Water Tunnel in Danger of 'Catastrophic' Collapse ( San Francisco )
Breitbart .. San Francisco Chronicle, ^ | 13 Aug 2014 | William Bigelow

Posted on 08/13/2014 10:57:52 PM PDT by george76

a debate is emerging between the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission (PUC) and the Bay Area Water Supply and Conservation Agency over the potential disaster if the 89-year-old Mountain Tunnel, which supplies 2.6 million Bay Area homes and businesses with water, collapses.

The PUC acknowledges that the tunnel does have a chance of "catastrophic collapse," which would require repairs costing $100 million or total replacement, costing up to $630 million. But the PUC’s 10-year-old 4.6 billion water system improvement program did not include the Mountain Tunnel in its plans.

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The risk right now is that the tunnel lining could continue to fail and, at some point, that might restrict our ability to get flow through it. That would be catastrophic to us -- any rapid failure that results in the reduction of water flow by 25 percent. That's a big deal.

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Nicole Sandkulla, the Bay Area Water Supply and Conservation Agency’s general manager, asserted that she had joined others to warn the PUC to look into potential problems with the tunnel, and they were upset when it "fell off that list."

In January, Sandkulla wrote the PUC "about the surprising and alarming notice we received... that the Mountain Tunnel, a vital part of the San Francisco Regional Water System, is at serious risk of a catastrophic collapse, which could cut off, for months, 85 percent of the water needed by residents, businesses, and community agencies in the Bay Area."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; contaminents; earthquake; groundwater; hetchhhetchy; hetchyhetchy; hetchyhetchywater; sanfrancisco; seismic; water; waterwars; yosemite
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To: george76

MY GOD!!!!!!!!!

If they lose their water what’s going to happen to the bath houses?

On second thought, they don’t really take showers in them anyway.....forget it.


21 posted on 08/14/2014 4:31:41 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Pontiac

At least for ten years or so until a new tunnel could be built.


Hell! That’s how long the environmental studies would take before any physical work could begin.

The whole thing just might be cancelled due to the discovery of the wooly maggot or the 8 toed grasshopper.


22 posted on 08/14/2014 4:35:45 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Pontiac

“Supplying water to cities and population centers is ancient technology. Over 2000 years ago the Romans built hundreds of miles of aqueducts.

After the fall of Rome no one built another one for a thousand years. “

I watched a Roman Empire video last week which showed at the end of the Empire a barbarian army attacked and disabled the last aqueduct feeding the city. After that the city population fell to less than 1000 people.


23 posted on 08/14/2014 5:03:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: george76

Debate = who gets $$$


24 posted on 08/14/2014 5:05:27 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: AlmaKing
It resembled Yosemite before being damned.

I guess the enviros would consider it was damned by being dammed.

25 posted on 08/14/2014 5:08:19 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Pontiac

Won’t work. There is to much heat required to set the material. Mountain Tunnel is 18.3 miles long and 10 foot in diameter.


26 posted on 08/14/2014 5:14:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rdcbn
To actually appreciate such things would be embarrassingly suburban and middle class, which is to say classless and clueless in their eyes and sophist world view.

In their parlance, it would be "bourgeois." And commies must avoid any appearance of being bourgeois or of belonging to the bourgeoisie.

27 posted on 08/14/2014 6:20:15 AM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: vette6387
I believe you are incorrect. The Crystal Springs Lakes provide terminal storage for Hetch Hetchy water. They are immediately south of SF and hold a huge amount of water. I drove between them a couple of weeks ago, and they were nearly full.

Crystal Springs Reservoir is a man-made lake. The dam that holds the water back is pretty old, and the San Andreas Fault runs right through the reservoir. Downtown San Mateo is downstream from that dam.

What could go wrong?

28 posted on 08/14/2014 6:23:42 AM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: kidd

and food comes from a can or a box.

No need to worry about the farmers, ranchers, or commercial fishermen who work hard to produce our food.


29 posted on 08/14/2014 7:29:16 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: AlmaKing
It resembled Yosemite before being damned.

Now it's buried under 50 feet of silt, so it's got that going for it.

30 posted on 08/14/2014 9:36:43 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: george76

I don’t see a problem. I turn the thingy here and water comes out of the faucet. -concerned liberal


31 posted on 08/14/2014 10:27:16 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: george76

Wait! Wait! You’re telling me it is possible for San Franciscans to smell worse than they already do?


32 posted on 08/14/2014 11:41:01 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: george76

http://abclocal.go.com//story?section=news/assignment_7&id=8869303

Hetch Hetchy project uses freezing technique

Wednesday, October 31, 2012

“...”We’re actually about 83-percent finished with the tunneling. We got about 5,000 feet to go, which is a very exciting point. We can actually say, because of this project and the one’s we’ve been able to accomplish in the last year, that the system is seismically a lot stronger than it was even a year ago,” said Barry.

Work on the Hetch Hetchy seismic upgrade project is expected to be completed in March 2015.”


33 posted on 08/14/2014 4:42:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: AlmaKing
On the other hand, the Hetch Hetchy valley could return to its original state which the enviros would love. It resembled Yosemite before being damned.

If drained, the site would actually turn into a dead canyon full of mud and silt.

34 posted on 08/14/2014 5:05:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: george76

Hetch Hetchy is Yosemite’s smaller twin.

John Muir said this:

“Dam Hetch Hetchy?! As well dam for water-tanks the people’s cathedrals and churches, for no holier temple has ever been consecrated by the heart of man.”


35 posted on 08/14/2014 7:30:54 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Pontiac
All of these Libs think that gasoline has always been there and will always be available.

Hardly. They are constantly preaching the "Peak Oil" scenario.

36 posted on 08/14/2014 7:45:22 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
Hardly. They are constantly preaching the "Peak Oil" scenario.

Yes you are correct, that is what they preach. Oh Doom and Gloom we are using up all of the Earth’s resources!

However the actions of government that they advocate create conditions that would cause great reductions in the availability of gasoline. Rather than encourage the discovery of new sources of mineral wealth they advocate severe reductions in mining and drilling.

Yet famous Liberal advocates of restrictions on traditional fuels use are some of the most blatant profligate users of traditional fuels.

The Liberal in essence wants to have gasoline available for them to use but doesn’t want anyone else to have gasoline.

Liberals practice magical thinking. Hypocrites.

37 posted on 08/14/2014 8:29:15 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: DH
Hell! That’s how long the environmental studies would take before any physical work could begin.

Got me there.

Not to mention the protestors and interveners that would delay the acceptance of the Environmental study report.

38 posted on 08/14/2014 8:33:41 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Won’t work. There is to much heat required to set the material. Mountain Tunnel is 18.3 miles long and 10 foot in diameter.

Sure it wouldn’t be easy.

I can imagine that the tunnel would be relined in sections. The surface of the tunnel would have to cleaned, any cracks grouted and then preheated before the liners was extruded in to place.

39 posted on 08/14/2014 8:38:31 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Disambiguator

I used to live in San Mateo and all that you point out is certainly true. That said, the issue was a supply tunnel collapse in and of itself causing am immediate loss of water supply to SF. Now if the CSL dam were to go, all bets are off and you’d need water wings if you lived in downtown San Mateo or Burlingame.


40 posted on 08/16/2014 3:32:18 AM PDT by vette6387
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