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Prepare for a Long War Against the Islamic State
Townhall.com ^ | August 13, 2014 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/13/2014 9:36:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: caww

There is no denying the battle in Iraq at least is between Saudis and Iranians. Approx. 85% of the muslim world is Sunni (included in that Salafis & Wahabis). The rest are Shia & its offshoots. Iranian regime after 35 yrs has failed to successfully export its version of an Islamic state to the world. IS has taken territory in a matter of months. Is it feasible to play Iranians & co against Saudis & co when it isn’t nearly an even match?


81 posted on 08/14/2014 4:41:53 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds
Like most conflicts, wars and uprisings, they all end up with ‘layers of interested parties’ operating in the theater, and all with their own ideas of what they want the outcome to be and look like.......Couple this with 'individual' ambitions at all levels of leaderships within the parties involved and you can see why things are never what they seem to be and the theater is so "fluid".

One thing is 'with certainty'... the Muslim Nations have never deviated from their mutual desire of seeing the Caliphate arise.....which will, despite their differences, unite them eventually against what they see as a common enemy to Islam.

82 posted on 08/14/2014 7:49:34 PM PDT by caww
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I don’t know. The war between sunnis and shia has been ongoing ever since Mohammad died, that’s some 1400 years. During that time they never united as such even among a common enemy. But, in more modern times, I do believe if the west stopped supporting Islam, for whatever reasons, we wouldn’t increasingly face a dire Islamic threat on a global level, which this is.


83 posted on 08/14/2014 8:02:32 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

among = against a common enemy..


84 posted on 08/14/2014 8:03:30 PM PDT by odds
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To: hummingbird

As I recall, our own Matt Bracken once gave a fairly effective solution a while back that could be summed up in two words:

Nuke Mecca.

One of the ‘major claims’ of Islam is that “Allah” will never allow harm to come to Mecca. The Muslims firmly believe that Mecca will never be destroyed.

He postulated that if you destroy Mecca, Muslims would be disheartened (at the very least) to know that the claims of their “Allah” turned out to be false. Granted, it might spark a massive ‘holy war’ by Muslims worldwide, and we’d have to be prepared for that.


85 posted on 08/14/2014 8:11:01 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: odds

...”The war between sunnis and shia has been ongoing ever since Mohammad died”....

Well from the Muslim ‘Leadership’ perspective try and look at it like Republican and Democrat Parties attempting to run our nation since the parties began. Many of their political leaders give lip service to Islam enough to keep the public on course..(and supporting them)...but their real motives are in the political power and wealth those positions will afford them, and their impact on the International Stage.

Islam unites the people sorta like Patriotism unites us....they just call it a religion when in fact it’s an ideology, but it does “control” the masses. Freedom is not something most Muslims could handle in the ME....so keeping them in a Islamic Religious state of mind controls them....otherwise they’d all be killing each other.

We’re supporting what ever will continue the push for the European Expansion and One World Governance...regardless which terrorists or not we support...it’s the end game they’re looking at.

The Islamic Global threat will increase as our nation weakens more and more....because we can’t afford to fight in all places...and Europe must rise to greater impact in that region since they are there...we’re clear over here.

Note:.....take a look at the US Embassy in Baghdad.....that monsterous thing wasn’t built for nothing!


86 posted on 08/14/2014 8:19:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I know for the muslim leadership it is about power and wealth and they use Islam as a tool.

Unsure if I understand your point, what is the end objective/game for the U.S. in supporting Islam? Do we think we'll be somehow protected from the menace?

87 posted on 08/14/2014 8:29:39 PM PDT by odds
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To: hoagy62
Granted, it might spark a massive ‘holy war’ by Muslims worldwide, and we’d have to be prepared for that.

At some point, we're probably going to have to deal with that, anyway.

88 posted on 08/14/2014 8:43:51 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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