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What we know about Michael Brown's shooting
CNN ^ | August 12, 2014 | Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN

Posted on 08/12/2014 9:14:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: palmer

St. Louis Post Dispatch reporter Elisa Crouch is reporting that the Mike brown records are from a different birthday thane the deceased...
https://twitter.com/elisacrouch


61 posted on 08/12/2014 10:20:19 AM PDT by Currentriverrat (People are calling our President the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, that's not allowed is it?)
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To: Mariner

Who cares what the truth looks like? The rioters and pimps are going to use their own story. Just like the Trayvon case.


62 posted on 08/12/2014 10:20:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

“The thing I want to know about this story is why the policeman would bother stopping two kids walking home just because they were walking in the street rather the sidewalk?”

I live in a relatively busy neighborhood yet teenagers walk in the middle of the street when there are sidewalks on both sides of the street. Is this simply defiance? Idiocy? I do not know.

However, it could be that the officer was concerned for their well-being and not getting run over by a vehicle?


63 posted on 08/12/2014 10:21:05 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“An unarmed person (35 feet away) CAN STILL POSE A THREAT!!!”

BS...


64 posted on 08/12/2014 10:21:32 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Mariner

If the cops are correct Brown had just fired off a round and tried to kill a cop. Brown then became a felon and fled. Shooting a fleeing felon is not illegal.


65 posted on 08/12/2014 10:21:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Uncle Chip
My thoughts: Struggle started in car - shot fired there. Struggle continued by either Brown pulling officer out of car, or officer being able to push back with enough force to move them away from the car. Struggle continued for the weapon, with the men moving over the ground away from the car. As far as the other shots go, we'll have to wait for further info on those. Did the gun fire again while they were fighting for it? Did the officer push Brown away, and shoot him because Brown kept coming at him? Just speculation on my part.

I have to question the witness. If the officer opened fire on Brown as claimed, how come he didn't shoot the witness too? He claims he was hiding behind the car, and if so, why didn't the officer just blow him away too, to eliminate any witnesses?

Brown was a big guy, and one cop would have had a very difficult time restraining or gaining control over him. Having first-hand knowledge of taking down belligerent convicts of all sizes, it wasn't uncommon for 3-4 officers being necessary to gain control of the individual's extremities. And even then, the struggle could move several feet away from where it had originally started.

66 posted on 08/12/2014 10:27:03 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
" Shooting a fleeing felon is not illegal."

In some states that's true, but many have overturned such statutes and replaced them with "imminent threat" statutes.

Where the statute has not been changed it is nearly universally over-ridden by official policy.

And there's still reasonable question as to whether the punk actually attacked the officer. Witnesses seem to agree he did not.

67 posted on 08/12/2014 10:28:01 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“Witnesses seem to agree he did not.”

LIV Witnesses seem to agree he did not. I fixed it for you.


68 posted on 08/12/2014 10:31:52 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I’m with you. Sidewalks are for walking. Roads/streets are for moving vehicles. If they’d stick to the curb area it wouldn’t be so bad, but most of them walk far enough out into the lane so that you’ll have to drive around them. I refuse to move, beep my horn, and make them move over.


69 posted on 08/12/2014 10:34:27 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
"LIV Witnesses seem to agree he did not. I fixed it for you."

Their credibility will be subject to scrutiny at trial.

70 posted on 08/12/2014 10:35:36 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Uncle Chip

From the CNN article:

“investigation showed that the Ferguson officer tried to exit his vehicle,, but Brown pushed him back into the car, “where he physically assaulted the police officer” and struggled over the officer’s weapon, Belmar said.
A shot was fired inside the police car, and Brown was eventually shot about 35 feet away from the vehicle, Belmar said.”

So, this isn’t rocket science. Is there a bullet or bullet hole in the police car?


71 posted on 08/12/2014 10:37:37 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Currentriverrat
Thanks. I looked through this https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do but didn't find anything although I didn't click down into every case. The problem is the alleged case may have been in juvenile court and not in this system. But until I see a definitive link from that arrest record to a govt website, I am disinclined to believe the report.
72 posted on 08/12/2014 10:40:29 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not possible - his mom said he was a “gentle giant”.


73 posted on 08/12/2014 10:41:28 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Organic Panic

Both of the accounts given seem ridiculous. I would think that, before any trained police officer used his weapon, the fact that his life might be ruined would occur to him/her.


74 posted on 08/12/2014 10:42:49 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Vermont Lt

Not many hunters on this thread. You can get a good shot on a deer and it will travel quite a distance before it falls. So that 30 to 35 feet doesn’t mean all that much if he was moving.

The city of Fort Worth has taken to putting body cameras on their uniformed officers because of such instances. Thanks to all that gas and oil royalties.


75 posted on 08/12/2014 10:43:11 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Veto!
Is there a bullet or bullet hole in the police car?

What the police chief is judiciously evading is where all the rest of the 8 bullets were fired --

And that he would know by the location of the brass which was between the front door of the car and the body 35 feet away.

He is awfully quiet about that --

76 posted on 08/12/2014 10:45:04 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Parley Baer
Exactly, and then they go on report one side of the story.

The cops aren't saying much about their version of events yet.

Of course, arrest records have been leaked.

77 posted on 08/12/2014 10:45:39 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: mass55th

Jaywalking: How the car industry outlawed crossing the road
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26073797

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking


78 posted on 08/12/2014 10:47:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: fella

The police chief admits that a shot was fired from the front seat of the car — one shot — but no one was hit by that shot.

So explain the body with 7+ bullets in it 35 feet away.


79 posted on 08/12/2014 10:48:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Jack Hydrazine

First I’ve heard of cell phone video. Source?


80 posted on 08/12/2014 10:49:15 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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