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What we know about Michael Brown's shooting
CNN ^ | August 12, 2014 | Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN

Posted on 08/12/2014 9:14:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip
Without revealing what led to the dispute, Belmar said the preliminary investigation showed that the Ferguson officer tried to exit his vehicle, but Brown pushed him back into the car, "where he physically assaulted the police officer" and struggled over the officer's weapon, Belmar said.

A shot was fired inside the police car, and Brown was eventually shot about 35 feet away from the vehicle, Belmar said.

But even if this account is 100% true, and we have only the police officer's testimony on it, the struggle for the gun was over. The police officer had his pistol and Brown was unarmed and fleeing. Why the need to shoot him?

21 posted on 08/12/2014 9:47:57 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Uncle Chip
Something smells here. Only in NYC, DC or NJ (maybe Philadelphia) would a police force NOT OUT a brother-in-blue that stepped out of his car and executed bystanders.

Methinks that Crump and the rest of the race hustlers got into a huddle and made up the story "Rachael Janteal style".

22 posted on 08/12/2014 9:48:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Uncle Chip

The thing I want to know about this story is why the policeman would bother stopping two kids walking home just because they were walking in the street rather the sidewalk?

My guess is that Ferguson is not a very busy place so unless they were walking in the middle of the road what is the story here?

If we go by the witnesses then this cop instigated this thing that ultimately spiraled out of control.

Lot of facts remain to be determined here but the key question is the action of the policeman here.


23 posted on 08/12/2014 9:48:46 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Jack Hydrazine
An unarmed person (35 feet away) CAN STILL POSE A THREAT!!!

Did I miss the </sarcasm> tag on that post?

24 posted on 08/12/2014 9:48:51 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I didn’t say that in this instance the officer is blameless.

I said that the continuing “unarmed” meme is a falsehood that is continually disseminated by the press. People with criminal intent ARE ARMED. Sounds like this Brown fellow didn’t have this intent.


25 posted on 08/12/2014 9:49:54 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Uncle Chip

>>there was an exchange of words<<

Officer: Don’t walk in the Middle of the Street, it’s dangerous. Get on the sidewalk.

Kid: Yes Officer. Sorry. Have a nice day.

In my world that’s what happens. My Parent’s taught me common sense.

No way I would have an “exchange of words”, which I assume to be much more than what I wrote above with a Police Officer when I was a teenager.


26 posted on 08/12/2014 9:50:02 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Things can always be worse and the Democrat Party is here to prove it.)
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To: fwdude
An unarmed person CAN STILL POSE A THREAT!!!

When he's unarmed, 30 feet away, and running in the opposite direction? How?

27 posted on 08/12/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
How close it too close?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill

28 posted on 08/12/2014 9:52:06 AM PDT by fulltlt
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29 posted on 08/12/2014 9:52:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: fwdude

Yeah, there’s a clear intent from the media that we are not to use weapons in self defense against physically superior threats to our well-being.


30 posted on 08/12/2014 9:52:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Any comment on the behavior of people of the “urban culture” is considered to be “dissing”, and worthy of a beatdown.


31 posted on 08/12/2014 9:53:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wow — no wonder he was staying the summer with his grandmother in Ferguson.


32 posted on 08/12/2014 9:54:26 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DoodleDawg

If there was a struggle in the that car then that officer may have marks on him to prove that. If the gun went off in the car where did that bullet go.

If the police are confiscating any video of the incident then exactly what did that video show?

Way too many questions and not enough information.

Brown’s autopsy findings will be very interesting.


34 posted on 08/12/2014 9:55:38 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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FReepathon day 42.


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35 posted on 08/12/2014 9:56:29 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: MrB

Another thread highlights an attack in New York City of an “unarmed” black yoot punching a 70+ man in the face as he walked down a sidewalk. Yeah, “unarmed” does not equal harmless.


36 posted on 08/12/2014 9:56:46 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: DoodleDawg

It’s so small I thought it would be obvious! LOL!


37 posted on 08/12/2014 9:56:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: DoodleDawg

I think you hit the crux of the issue —


38 posted on 08/12/2014 9:57:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I have to tell you, the story that Dorian Johnson tells of his recollection of the shooting of his friend seems very convincing.

It paints a different picture than what I'd read about the incident from other sources. I'd thought this was about the arrest of a man who tried to seize an officer's sidearm while struggling in the back of a police car as he was being taken into custody.

Seems to be not the case at all, if this young man is to be believed. Meanwhile, the police are all clammed up 'pending an active investigation'. Gosh, I suppose the police are frustrated with their inability to speak to the media about the story they're just bursting to tell in order to set the record straight on what happened in the death of this man.

I'll wait for more information of course before passing judgement.

39 posted on 08/12/2014 9:57:31 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: fulltlt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill

Well then I imagine the police had better shoot anyone who gets within 30 feet of them. For safety's sake.

40 posted on 08/12/2014 9:58:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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