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Why Do Most Jews Stay with Obama? Obama’s "Progressive" dream will be their nightmare.
Pajamas Media ^ | 08/12/2014 | Arnold Steinberg

Posted on 08/12/2014 5:33:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It was implausible to me that Barack Obama never knew Rev. Jeremiah Wright hated Jews. At best, Obama made a deal with this anti-Semitic racist, who helped Obama launch his political career.

Still, back in 2008, Jews — displaying the cognitive dissonance of a captive Democratic voter bloc — gave Obama the benefit of the doubt for the same reason most Jews continue to support him: he’s (half) black. Jews favor underdogs and victims (though really, Obama is neither).

As many Jews assimilated into America over the last century, some downplayed their Jewish identity — changing names, intermarrying and, most of all, converting… to the secular religion of liberalism. Although Jews became leaders in the civil rights movement, black anti-Semitism persists; leftist Jews don’t see to care that the Congressional Black Caucus is largely anti-Israel, as was the last Democratic National Convention.

There is a double standard. Obama’s first foreign policy act was his “apology tour” to the Arab world. Obama then favored the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and opposed its moderate successor government. Secretary of State John Kerry similarly snubbed moderate Arabs countries and bypassed the Palestinian Authority to curry favor with Hamas. Imagine if Secretary of State Jim Baker had done the same thing during George H.W. Bush’s presidency.

Following World War II, the myth had persisted among Jews that FDR was a bold leader who helped save Jews, when, in fact, he was a feckless polemicist who was indifferent to the Holocaust. Republican Sen. Howard Taft’s principled opposition to the ex post facto Nuremberg trials was misinterpreted. That same older generation of Jews also thanked Democrat Harry Truman in 1948 for recognizing Israel and faulted Republican Dwight Eisenhower for pressuring Israel during the 1956 Suez crisis.


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To: Netz

If that were true wouldn’t Jews have become more wholesome and normal, more average in their voting and politics and political activism and leadership, rather than having always been so radical and left wing in America?


21 posted on 08/12/2014 9:11:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Linda Frances

So Jews don’t keep up with the news and vote according to their politics over 150 years of history?


22 posted on 08/12/2014 9:14:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
So Jews don’t keep up with the news and vote according to their politics over 150 years of history?


Liberal Jews voted for Obama even after all the statements he made about standing with Muslims, the very people who hate and want to kill Jews, not to mention him saying Israel should go back to pre1964 boundaries and berating Israel for firing back after they were attacked. His close close ties with Muslims and those surrounding him in his administration should open peoples eyes, but it doesn't. Carter got almost 72% of Jewish vote even with his antisemitic statements and cash reward from extremist and to speeches to those who hate Jews.

Liberal Jews curse their own people with their words and actions. Somehow liberal Jews are blinded from the truth, thinking they will escape muslim hatred because they are liberal. It's nonsensical, maybe even cursed. They blessed us with giving us our savior, Jesus, yet liberal Jews hate their own, themselves.

“And I will bless those that bless you and curse the one who curses you. And in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.”

23 posted on 08/12/2014 10:48:54 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Yeah, the majority of Jews are lefties, and always have been.


24 posted on 08/12/2014 11:07:57 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"Obviously they’ve got some real Hitleresque bug up their rear ends about the Jews."

It's actually a Satanesque/Satanic bug....that predates Hitler by centuries. And it stems from God's choice of the Jewish nation from which to send His son.

25 posted on 08/12/2014 11:24:08 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: ansel12
First of all, Jews are what you call, “wholesome” and “normal” in the same way as anybody else.

The problem is a warped sense of which causes to champion.

Jews always favor CHANGE (for the betterment of humanity), that is the definition of Justice.

Jews are not hardcore, radical Leftists as they were in the 30’s through the 60’s. Then, “Liberal” meant Democratic as in the JFK Democratic, not today's RADICAL, Anti-Israel Democratic Party.

Habits are hard to change and Jewish voters still, knee jerk reflex tend to vote Democratic. Old habits die hard.

Obama is Black (=equality in the eyes of Jews).
He offered “CHANGE” (=more Justice in the eyes of Jews).

He offered major Reform (=moving to a better future in the eyes of Jews).

He set out to withdraw troops from the world (=less militarization, good for peace-loving Jews).

He tried to rescind Bush policies (=better leadership and representation in the eyes of Jews).

All in all, HE, the HOLY ONE, offered HOPE (=better future for America and humankind in the eyes of Jews).

All of this support for Obama BACKFIRED on the Jews (of Israel) and for all of America's global interests. It was not only the tiny Jewish minority that voted for this loser. There were, Jews like me who voted against him, twice and lobbied my fellow Jews to not be sucked up into his campaign of empty rhetoric and weakness. I failed in that effort.
The Bible (Torah) says that Jews are a “tough or stiff-necked people” and that is why, they are hard to convince or sway. This means that even in the face of certain realities (how Obama is destroying America and Israel) it will still be hard to convince them of this fact.

My only hope is that after taking knocks, the Jewish community will snap out of their fog and see the error in their ways by going back to the Republican party or equivalent, whatever may be.

26 posted on 08/12/2014 10:04:42 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

What a load of nonsense, your effort to ignore what wholesome and normal meant showed where you were going with your defense of the democratic left voters and activists.

Jews weren’t just quietly voting democrat in the 20 and 30s, they were rabid leftists. In 1920 when the had someone to the left to vote for they did, 38% for the Socialist party, and for FDR, they went from 82% support to 85% and then to 90% support twice.

The Jews have never voted for the republicans, and there is no reason to think they ever will.


27 posted on 08/12/2014 10:12:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Linda Frances
“...Liberal Jews voted for Obama even after all the statements he made about standing with Muslims, the very people who hate and want to kill Jews, not to mention him saying Israel should go back to pre1964 boundaries and...”

The world wants Israel to go back to it's pre-1967, (not ‘64) borders. These borders were called the “Auschwitz Border” by Israel's Foreign Minister, Abba Evan.

The world does, indeed, want Israel to go back to it's pre-1948 or even pre-1918 borders, no wait, they want Israel to go back to it's pre-70AD borders.

Never forget that the PLO was created in the early 1960’s. In 1964 their Charter said they want to (violently) take back the “Occupied Territories” what they love to call the “Resistance”. That was 3 years before the 6-Day War when Israel, captured the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights. So, which “Occupied Territories were they referring to????? Answer: ALL OF ISRAEL.

Wake up folks, the PLO (now called the PA) are every bit as dangerous as the HAMAS or Hizbollah. They wear suits & ties instead of masks and uniforms.

28 posted on 08/12/2014 10:15:24 PM PDT by Netz
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To: ansel12
Has the world (along with Jews) not shifted away from early 20th century Leftism? Are folks, not just Jews, now more aware of the sins of Communism/Socialism? Aren't most folks less extreme in their ideologies?
What, in your terminology is “wholesome” and “normal”?

From ~1840-1980, millions in the West were ideologically driven, not just Jews. Look around you today. Do you see Syndicalists, Radical Trotskyites, Maoists, Anarchists, Internationalists and many other movements today within the Jewish community? The answer is no. The only remnants of these radical groups are Jews voting Left-Democratic. The extremism is gone.
As regards FDR, the Jewish voter of 1932 is not the voter of 2014, times and people have changed, so too, the Jews.

29 posted on 08/12/2014 11:05:53 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

No, the Jews are leftists, and evidently you support them not being just normal and wholesome.

As the rare conservative American Jew I would have thought you would have some idea of what normal and wholesome meant versus the twisted perversion and sickness of the left, and their attacks on normal Americans and “flyover country”.


30 posted on 08/12/2014 11:13:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve about beat this dog to death but at least its out in the open

They’ve brought this scorn on themselves

Were I Israeli I’d disown the neurotic Allenesque turds.

Funny the very people libtard Jews hate most are Israel’s most powerful supporters in numbers and influence

US Conservative Christians.

God loves irony


31 posted on 08/12/2014 11:13:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Netz
As regards FDR, the Jewish voter of 1932 is not the voter of 2014, times and people have changed, so too, the Jews.

True, they went from 82% FDR in 1932, to 78% Obama in 2008, so they are like totally different.......

32 posted on 08/12/2014 11:16:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
I support NORMALCY, no matter who we are talking about.

I think it is wrong for you to say that Jews are not normal Americans or wholesome for that matter. They do tend to vote Left, you are correct but you do yourself damage by using the terms “perverted”, “sick” and “twisted” when describing the Left or Jews for that matter.

I totally disagree with the Left and the election of BHO but I disagree on your demonetization. We see eye to eye in that Obama is destroying America, the West AND ISRAEL but I do my best NOT to demonize people, but rather criticize and lobby for better pro-USA/pro-Israel/pro-Western POLICIES.

33 posted on 08/13/2014 12:57:17 AM PDT by Netz
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To: wardaddy

As I Jew I fully embrace Christians who embrace Israel, no probs there!


34 posted on 08/13/2014 12:58:11 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

Lay off the nonsense and lies, and you might be able to think better.

Get to work trying to be, or at least trying to defend , “normal”


35 posted on 08/13/2014 1:09:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

OK, bud...whatever you say. Too bad your not listening but OK.


36 posted on 08/13/2014 1:11:30 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

Which one of us is supplying truth and actual history, and which one is trying to lie?


37 posted on 08/13/2014 1:15:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
Give it a rest. You're looking for a fight. As I already stated, you're too polarized. I am trying to provide a more moderate view and you believe you are the sole possessor of truth so let's cut it here, ok?
38 posted on 08/13/2014 1:17:26 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

Don’t play your reverse games.

You want to defend the left, and I don’t.

What do you want to discuss about the left, that I don’t?


39 posted on 08/13/2014 1:25:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

I am not defending the LEFT, I am against them. Are you bored?


40 posted on 08/13/2014 2:09:48 AM PDT by Netz
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