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1 posted on 08/11/2014 7:40:42 AM PDT by george76
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Tunnel crew...you can figure union rates at $30 an hour. Toss in some accidents and a simple two-year project can turn into a six-year project. You could milk this till the cows come home.

Aren’t those Seattle guys still paid while the digging machine sits?


2 posted on 08/11/2014 7:43:11 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Yeah, a tunnel in earthquake country sounds like a great idea to me.


3 posted on 08/11/2014 7:44:26 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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. . . might be going above the current estimate of $68 billion.

MIGHT? Please, it will be at a minimum 4x the original estimates. Probably closer to 7x.

5 posted on 08/11/2014 7:52:02 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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At the rate people and jobs are bailing out of California, there won’t be anyone left to ride it.


6 posted on 08/11/2014 7:53:16 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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15 miles X $1.22 billion per mile = $18.3 billion, and that's BEFORE cost overruns additional graft etc...
7 posted on 08/11/2014 7:53:17 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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“... might be going above the current estimate of $68 billion. “

Might be?

Might be?

Good gawd, man, we’re talking liberals here.

They could not manage a kool aid stand, let alone anything requiring adult judgement.

Mexifornica...fornia is doomed.

Best the big one comes early and ends their suffering early.


9 posted on 08/11/2014 7:55:07 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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That’s almost $2,000 per person for every legal and illegal resident in the State of California. Even liberals didn’t used to be quite that wasteful.


10 posted on 08/11/2014 7:55:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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So, which politician owns land along the new, proposed route?


12 posted on 08/11/2014 7:55:35 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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Please...the tunnel will only add to the increases already in place for this abomination...

Nothing more than a “jobs program” for unions, lawyers and other scum feeding at the taxpayer trough...then again, many of those same taxpayers voted for this idiocy...

Hard to feel anything other than schadenfreude regarding this whole thing...

It will not be “high speed” rail since it will be sharing some of the existing lines and those are primarily freight lines, especially the Tehachapi Loop...not gonna be going fast through there...


13 posted on 08/11/2014 7:57:11 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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you can add tens of billions to whatever they estimate the cost to be today, by the time they could finish it

do these ventures create employment, in the long run

no - they focus on concentrating employment

telling companies there is no need to move, build or create jobs nearer where people are located, we’ll tax the public to build mass transit to bring the workers to you

it only marginally reduces commute times and continues the paradigm of building concentrations of wealth, people and political power instead of building on dispersal of work and living spaces and local independence


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16 posted on 08/11/2014 8:02:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Which earthquake would wipe out that tunnel???


17 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( Sensational, inaccurate, mistaken, misguided, and half-a$$ed “journalism” pretending to be an acc)
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No one in the media seems to have figured it out yet, but the California high speed rail project is nothing more than a cover story for an enormous state land grab which will enrich their coffers by billions once eminant domain, adverse possession, and countless easements are established. Theft on a collosal scale under the guise of public transportation that is neither needed nor wanted.


18 posted on 08/11/2014 8:07:16 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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This is going to be another “Big Dig” (like in Boston)

It is going to take forever and cost 10 times as much as originally projected.

$68 Billion will seem like a bargain before it is over.


20 posted on 08/11/2014 8:09:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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They can’t build a bridge without making major mistakes, across the SF Bay and you want me to think they can build a 15 mile tunnel? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


25 posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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Hmmmm...starting to sound like this could be another joke like Boston's “BIG DIG” multi-billions debacle!!!
27 posted on 08/11/2014 8:34:31 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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Oh plz.. if ever completed, this boondoggle is a 125 billion dollar monster.. they so underestimated the costs.

Typical pie in the sky California Dreamin’


30 posted on 08/11/2014 8:39:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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Jerry Browns first term as governor in the 1970’s setup California to fail. He has come back to finish the job.


31 posted on 08/11/2014 8:41:22 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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You don’t have to bury the earth quake victims.


33 posted on 08/11/2014 8:44:27 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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A tunnel? In one of the most seismically active areas of the world?

ROFLMAO!


34 posted on 08/11/2014 8:44:47 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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