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Kurdish pleas for weapons may finally be heard
Associated Press ^ | Aug 9, 2014 6:35 AM EDT | Ken Dilanian

Posted on 08/09/2014 6:25:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai

For years, Kurdish officials have beseeched the Obama administration to let them buy U.S. weapons. And for just as long, the administration has rebuffed the Kurds, America’s closest allies in Iraq.

U.S. officials insisted they could only sell arms to the government in Baghdad, even after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki broke a written promise to deliver some of them to the Kurds, whose peaceful, semi-autonomous northern region had been the lone success story to come out of the 2003 U.S. invasion.

Now, the administration is confronting the consequences of that policy. The Islamic State group, which some American officials have dubbed “a terrorist army,” overpowered lightly armed Kurdish units in a blitzkrieg that has threatened the Kurdish region and the American personnel stationed there. …

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; kurdistan; kurds; rop; yazidi; yazidis
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1 posted on 08/09/2014 6:25:43 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

It almost sounds like we set up the whole damn thing.


2 posted on 08/09/2014 6:30:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
"It almost sounds like we set up the whole damn thing."

Well , the US armed and trained ISIS as part of the failed attempt to overthrow the Syrian government, never mind all the US weaponry and vehicles ISIS acquired from the fleeing Iraqi army.

3 posted on 08/09/2014 6:37:28 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai

Dealing with the US Government for anything, is like dealing with a snake. Sooner or later there will be slithering, or a fatal bite, take your pick, the best course of action, would be not to deal in the first place, particularly for 50 Sovereign States.


4 posted on 08/09/2014 6:46:45 AM PDT by wita
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To: Sacajaweau

As long as the fiction that the Kurds are part of Iran is maintained, this situation of not being able to deliver arms to the Kurds will continue, as the Shi’ites in charge of the central Iranian government are not EVER going to allow the Kurds to be heavily armed. The Kurds are not politically reliable (in the view of Baghdad, at any rate), though that is sort of a moot point now, with the wild and crazy bearded men with burning eyes having declared a separate nation on parts of Syria and Iran already, and are pushing toward Jordan and perhaps Lebanon. Saudi Arabia is more distant, but that may part of their intended conquest, with the Saudi Arabian royalty as their designated target.

Just like Joe Biden said, Iraq will fracture into three countries. The Shi’ite south, the Islamic Caliphate down the middle, and Kurdistan to the north.

Only Kurdistan will not stop at the current borders between Iraq, Turkey and Iran, or other border regions in nearby countries. As an ethnic whole, they could be a VERY potent buffer state.


5 posted on 08/09/2014 6:47:18 AM PDT by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama doesn’t give a damn about genocide of Christians.

He’s pretending to respond due ONLY to the media attention.

A few 500 lb. bombs are like throwing stones at a pack of wolves.

The chances of him ordering serious action is VERY remote.
As is arming the Kurds.


6 posted on 08/09/2014 6:49:51 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Truth29

The blitzkrieg fall of South Vietnam all over again... aftrer losing so many US lives in Iraq for 12 years—only the aftermath will horrifying resemblecCambidua more that Vietnam. Lord help us. And them.


7 posted on 08/09/2014 6:51:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Stop the August Amnesty runaway train, or we will literally lose our Republic folks.)
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To: Olog-hai

RE: Kurdish pleas for weapons may finally be heard

Finally? Why did it take Obummer this long to decide? is it because he didn’t want his golf game to be disturbed?

I am no fan of Nixon, but when it came to decisiveness to do the right thing, this bozo is a wuss compared to Tricky Dick.

When Israel Defense Forces were set back on their heels in the first days of the 1973 war and Prime Minister Golda Meir begged for American help, Nixon delivered.

Not only that. When he learned the deliveries were being bogged down by bureaucracy, he called in his secretaries of state and defense.

As Henry Kissinger read out the list of what was being sent to Israel, Nixon replied, “Double it. Now get the hell out of here and get the job done.”

He further made clear to the Israelis not to worry about weapons and ammunition: America would replace whatever they’d lost with even more advanced equipment.

“Whatever it takes,” he told Kissinger, “save Israel.”

Nixon used to use ethnic slurs when he referred to the Jews. He even called Kissinger my “Jew Boy”.

But In his memoirs, Chaim Herzog, Israel’s sixth president, said this of Nixon’s ugly outbursts:

“He supplied arms and unflinching support when our very existence would have been in danger without them. Let his comments be set against his actions. His words may have raised eyebrows but not his actions.

“And I’ll choose actions over words any day of the week.”

Obama has NO SUBSTANCE and is an INDECISIVE WEAKLING.


8 posted on 08/09/2014 6:52:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Olog-hai

The KURDS had better be heard:

Obama has known about this ISIS Genocide for months.And Obama is white washing it with the help of the NYT and the MSM.

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Yazidi Member of Iraq Parliament Collapses
You Tube ^ | 5 Aug 2014 | KurdFromNL
Posted on 9/8/2014 08:31:49 by Candor7

Yazidi Member of Iraqi Parliament “Fiyan Dakheel” (of the Kurdistan Alliance) collapses in tears after calling upon Humanity to rescue the Yazidis from Genocide. The Iraqi Parliament came together on 5 August 2014 to discuss the latest developments inside Iraq.

(Video at link)

Obama has become a mouse that tried to roar and he barely even squeaked, he suffers from a horrid leftist ideological disease which threatens our nation and international order.

The West should be fighting ISIS with all we have got, and Obama is not even forming a coalition of states to stop these MSM hidden crimes against humanity.The MSM is just NOT covering this. Meanwhile WWIII looms over the world. Its 1925 all over again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3190775/posts

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http://shoebat.com/2014/07/29/rare-footage-muslims-create-literal-river-human-blood-butchering-1500-innocent-people/

Obama is just paying lip service to stopping these barbarians. Obama needs to be pilloried.He should be organizing a coalition to stop them, but now he has no friends in the ME, except the Muslim Brotherhood. We cannot allow this to continue.


9 posted on 08/09/2014 6:55:54 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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10 posted on 08/09/2014 7:15:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Olog-hai
Earnest said. "We have also demonstrated a willingness to increase the flow of supplies, including arms, to Kurdish security forces

They Kurds need the military supplies now, not our "willingness to increase the flow of supplies,"
Our "willingness" won't stop Isis. -Tom

11 posted on 08/09/2014 7:38:43 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: Olog-hai

Truthfully, the Kurds have missed some big opportunities here. To start with, their biggest ally right now is probably Israel. And while the Israelis resources are somewhat limited, Israel could act as a conduit for weapons to the Kurds.

Their next big opportunity could be one that Israel has already made, that of friendship with India. This is actually something of a direct route easier than with Israel, because they could transit through southern Iraq, the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea, and there they are in India.

(Israel transits the Red Sea, the Gulf of Aden, and then the Arabian Sea to get to India, so relatively speaking, India is the friendly midpoint between Kurdistan and Israel.)


12 posted on 08/09/2014 8:06:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Things won’t be so friendly under Modi, who wants to pal around with Red China and Russia.


13 posted on 08/09/2014 8:07:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Not so sure. Just recently:

“India backed a call for a United Nations Human Rights Council investigation into Israel’s ongoing onslaught in Gaza last week (the United States was the only country to oppose the resolution). But that was a largely symbolic vote. At home, the newly elected government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) blocked parliamentary votes to condemn Israeli actions.”

As Sadanand Dhume, a fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, argued in the Wall Street Journal, “New Delhi appears ready to suggest publicly what many officials already acknowledge privately: A burgeoning strategic partnership with Israel matters more to India than reflexive solidarity with the Palestinian cause.”

As an aside, Kurdistan was involved in India’s first foreign policy challenge and success, in that around 50 Indian citizens were caught up in the fighting. India has managed to get some of them home, but it is now paying attention to the area.


14 posted on 08/09/2014 9:14:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Al-Jazeera, really?


15 posted on 08/09/2014 9:31:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The always relevant question concerning Obama: Is he really that supid and incompetent, or does he want the worst elements of Islam to prevail?


16 posted on 08/09/2014 9:42:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Olog-hai

It’s elsewhere, as well.

Economic Times:

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-09-23/news/34022998_1_defence-supplier-india-and-israel-anti-ballistic-missile-systems

Special Broadcasting Service (SBS)(Australia)

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/07/04/kurds-seek-independence-amid-iraq-chaos


17 posted on 08/09/2014 9:48:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
SBS’s credibility is highly suspect, never mind their stance highly left-wing and pro-Islam.

As for the India Times editorial, it is also into Israel-bashing:
However, there is a flip side to it (the India-Israel defense deal): Indian officials and industry insiders say there is more to this “flourishing partnership” than meets the eye. There is widespread bribing of Indian officials by Israeli companies, they say. …
Not very far off from the al-Jazeera plantation.
18 posted on 08/09/2014 10:40:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m really not seeing anything nefarious here. Israel and India have had defense ties for well more than a decade. What are your concerns?


19 posted on 08/09/2014 11:22:04 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Truth29

Cite your sources or get your facts straight. We have not armed or trained Syrian Islamic opposition groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Syrian_Revolutionary_and_Opposition_Forces


20 posted on 08/09/2014 11:31:31 AM PDT by Justa
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