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Europe Furious That Putin Dares To Retaliate To Sanctions, Blames Economic Slide On Kremlin
Zerohedge ^ | 8-7-2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/07/2014 8:57:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: tcrlaf
The part about going to the WTO because Russia won’t buy their stuff, because they went along with other sanctions against Russia, pretty much says it all.

I'm skeptical that the EU would be surprised that Russia retaliates with its own sanctions, since this scenario has been predicted in almost every article written in the last several months. Use some common sense.
41 posted on 08/07/2014 10:12:43 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: OldGuard1
These are some of the countries that have been pushing the *hardest* against Russia

Looks like you answered your own question.

42 posted on 08/07/2014 10:13:41 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Natufian

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/finland/agricultural-raw-materials-exports-percent-of-merchandise-exports-wb-data.html

Given that all Finnish food exports combined only make up in the ballpark of 2% of their total exports, and Russia only buying 10% of those (0.2% of all exports), and given that exports are only a quarter of Finland’s GDP... yeah, this claim is complete nonsense.


43 posted on 08/07/2014 10:14:43 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

“since this scenario has been predicted in almost every article written in the last several months. Use some common sense.”

Always with the caveat the Russia wouldn’t REALLY do this, because sanctions would hurt them too.

With an approval rate in the mid-80’s, Putin can do lots of things that the Euros thought he wouldn’t do.


44 posted on 08/07/2014 10:14:54 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: 1rudeboy

They have advertisements for gold and silver. It is a conspiracy site anyway. Especially bad when it comes to Russia as the Bulgarian guy behind it has a soft spot for their “Slavic Brotherhood”.


45 posted on 08/07/2014 10:15:12 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: agere_contra

So your logic is that a country that wants to send their troops against Russian forces is suddenly going to go, “Oh dear lord... we want to fight them, but then they might not buy our apples! Everyone, stop, stop, we can’t do anything against Russia!”


46 posted on 08/07/2014 10:16:29 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: agere_contra

Oh, by the way, this was Poland’s response to Putin’s threat to cut off their apple exports:

http://www.google.is/search?q=poland+putin+apples&hl=is&gbv=2&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=-rTjU8j-FrKa0QWFrwE&ved=0CAQQ_AU&safe=active

There’s a meme that’s been circulating around Poland where people post pictures of themselves eating apples with sayings like “An apple a day keeps Putin away”.


47 posted on 08/07/2014 10:20:01 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: OldGuard1

My logic? Troops?

What on earth are you talking about?

You asked a question about why food sanctions, and not Gas export sanctions. I answered it.

You then gave your own excellent reason why food sanctions might be used first - which is that they may tend to exert pressure against those who are most militant against Russia.

Now - I don’t know what you’re doing. You seem to be putting words into my mouth. It may be a good time to have a break, FRiend.


48 posted on 08/07/2014 10:24:44 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: OldGuard1
My, my . . . a member of the FR Borscht Brigade told me just yesterday that the Poles were protesting against placing sanctions on Russia.
49 posted on 08/07/2014 10:27:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: OldGuard1; tcrlaf

Thanks, I suspected as much. The OP touts himself as a some sort of disinterested and serious analyst of events but his posts are absurdly one-sided and increasingly hysterical. It’s pitiful to watch.


50 posted on 08/07/2014 10:29:23 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian; tcrlaf
In most cases, when someone presents himself or herself as providing "balance," he or she is not:

I am trying to provide balance, to what I have found to be wild, over-the-top, and exaggerated claims by Kiev, and it’s propagandists.
For that I have been called names, cajoled, and even threatened.
Like it or not, it’s that very bashing that has made me dig deeper into what is really going on, much to the Kiev propagandists ire.

18 posted on ‎8‎/‎5‎/‎2014‎ ‎17‎:‎17‎:‎24 by tcrlaf (Q)


51 posted on 08/07/2014 10:41:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; tcrlaf

“I am trying to provide balance, to what I have found to be wild, over-the-top, and exaggerated claims by Kiev, and it’s propagandiists”

And he does so by making the entirely sane, balanced and unexaggerated claim that 10% of Finnish GDP is going to be whacked by Putin. Hysterical. You couldn’t make it up.


52 posted on 08/07/2014 10:49:16 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

I’m looking for FACTS, and some truth, in a blizzard of propaganda. That happens to run counter to the Currently approved Obama/Kiev truth, which we have some enforcers of here, the respondent being one of them.

We are just supposed to blindly believe everything Obama is saying about this, given all of the lies he has told before? On this one issue, and just this one issue alone??

Sorry, I just won’t swallow that load, given everything that has happened.

I equate this with what happened in Libya, and it is following almost the same lines, especially in propaganda.

PS- It looks like Ukrainian Civil War 3.0 is starting to develop, with barricades reportedly being reassembled on the Maidan, despite Poro sending in the tanks today to clear them.

That definitely won’t fit in with the current Kiev-approved PR, since they are blaming “Russian-caused unrest” (Klitchko, today) for why they had to clear the Maidan.


53 posted on 08/07/2014 10:51:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
In fact, Europe is so stunned by this unexpected "politically-motivated" retaliation by Russia, it issued a press release.

Was anybody hurt?

54 posted on 08/07/2014 10:53:16 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Natufian

I don’t remember which econ blog I saw this comment on, so I cannot attribute it properly, but the subject of discussion was the posting of false claims: the response was, by the time that one actually goes and looks-up the data and posts a correction, the original poster has gone and posted the false information on ten more threads.


55 posted on 08/07/2014 10:54:03 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Krosan; Uncle Chip; 1rudeboy

So, perhaps ya’ll can tell me what the latest Kiev-approved Maidan Propaganda is?

Maidan then: Peaceful protesters resisting the Yanukovych regime

Maidan now: Legitimate government going after FSB agents

Which is it, folks?


56 posted on 08/07/2014 10:56:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
I’m looking for FACTS, and some truth, in a blizzard of propaganda.

And in order to do so, you throw away everything on one side away as "propaganda," and post propaganda from the other side. In order to find balance, facts, and truth. /s

57 posted on 08/07/2014 10:57:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Help me out, first. What has Russia Today been tweeting about it?


58 posted on 08/07/2014 10:58:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

You are doing none of this. You are the most annoying Kremlin propagandist on this site. You are reproducing Russian propaganda on FreeRepublic while trying to make it about Obama to catch the uninformed people. Everything you post is with the purpose to mislead people.

“I have a bridge to sell you, that Obama does not want you to have.”

— tcrlaf (2014)


59 posted on 08/07/2014 11:01:40 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan
$1B is ~0.04% of US exports. Lets not go into such small digits and round it to 0.01

Cute. I am assuming your don't receive 50% of your earnings by exporting cheeses to St. Petersburg? It's so easy to be light-hearted when you and your employees go unaffected. Fun for you.

60 posted on 08/07/2014 11:06:03 AM PDT by Noamie
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