Posted on 08/06/2014 5:33:37 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper
Saudi Health Ministry confirms a Saudi man suspected of having the #ebola virus has died in a hospital in Jeddah
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We can hope they were negative.
I do hope they’re not trying to figure out what to say at a news conference that announces he tested positive though.
I mentioned this the other day, but they’re using rapid field tests in Africa to identify victims. I have a hard time believing we don’t have those here.
They initially said it would be 1-2 days for the results. It has been at least four days and not a word which tells me it was positive or they would have been screaming negative.
Those field tests apparently have a high rate of false negatives. They’re probably waiting on something more definitive.
The rapid field tests are unreliable. The reliable tests take several days to get results. Or that is what I read yesterday via some news story in which the person quoted seemed to be knowledgeable.
I agree and at this moment u have better odds of dieing by being stampeded by a derelict crowd of wild horses but consider this;
Ebola up until now has not been very efficient in mutating. There are theories as to why but one of the leading thoughts is that it just has had very little time to do so given it’s relative ease of eradication and or intervention.
This strain has presented a significant variant in that it has not been controllable and that seemingly best practice medicine has proven to be little barrier for the health professionals this time as their rate of infection is through the roof compared to previous strains.
So does EBOLA now have a chance to mutate into something much more sinister...perhaps even aerosol? Given the time now the strain has had and the various hosts its feasted upon...I think that question needs to be asked.
YAWN...
So?
Would you take a chance standing next to an Ebola patient without any kind of protective barrier? I didn’t think so. The Dr and the woman were wearing protective materials in Africa and still contracted the disease. They never said how this is possible if this is a blood and body fluid only disease. How did they catch Ebola?
How the hell is that not considered airborne then? Sounds VERY contagious to me especially in high population areas and close quarters like publiuc transportation in urban populations.
Well between us and Spain we have made it airborne....lol
http://www.newslocker.com/en-us/news/worldnews/spain-sends-jet-to-pick-up-priest-with-ebola-virus/
MADRID (AP) — Spain has sent a medically-equipped jet to Liberia to bring home a Spanish missionary priest who has tested positive for the Ebola virus, officials said Wednesday.
No cough is “dry.” When you cough, you expel mucous in one form or another. If that liquid comes into contact with your eyes, inside your nose, or your mouth in any way, it can now spread into your body. Unbroken skin is not an effective vector for infection. If it’s on your skin and comes into contact with one of the aforementioned body parts, however, good luck!
“Airborne” means that it can float through the air and exist just by inhalation alone. THAT would be truly terrifying. Truth is that most infections are introduced through poor hygiene, lack of handwashing before eating, etc.
They also didn't specify much else. Was the equipment used or otherwise compromised from poor storage or lack of maintenance? Was the equipment touched after it was removed or was it thoroughly washed down and scrubbed prior to removal? When the patients were exposed, were they handling the protective equipment with unprotected hands or did they have any exposed sores, cuts, lesions, etc.?
This story is being bandied about as being the terrible truth, when in reality, it's terribly documented and leaves a lot of questions unanswered. No PPE is fully protective, but there's something we don't know or understand in this story.
I appreciate your intent
while there is no need for panic at this point, I am also concerned at the “experts” on TV telling the public how they are not in danger and ebola is very difficult to contract
The answer lies somewhere in the middle. It is quite contagious and precautions need to be taken. And as we have seen in health care workers in Africa, even when precautions are taken, the disease is still transmitted.
It has taken days to obtain results in the suspected U.S. cases. This is why it drives me crazy when I hear some talking head on TV say that people coming off African flights are being "tested." We already see it isn't like pricking a diabetic's finger and getting instant results---there IS no quick test.
I suspect they're having their temperatures taken, which reveals nothing.
I think that, even though an N95 wont stop a .03 micron ebola virus, it will severely hinder it in your "bus stop seat" scenario. I mean, if you have to scratch your nose and your virus laden finger hits a mask, well, you have some mitigation protection....a little.....but at least something.
Wife and I have gone to DEFCON 4 at our house: Washing hands with soap and water in our mudroom upon entry. Using alchohol gel getting in and out of both vehicles. When we wash hour hands in a public restroom, we open the door when we exit with the paper towel and throw it "basketball style" into recepticle. At DEFCON 3, we will institute the mudroom as a hot zone and take off our shoes after stepping in a boot tray with bleach solution. .....I don't want to think of DEFCON 2 and 1....which will probably be wearing CBRN equipment, or at least having it available.
There are now 6 suspected in NYC.
Well at least it would rapidly identify the positives. I’m not suggesting samples aren’t sent to the CDC, but it could quickly identify those that definitely are infected...speed counts here.
Airborne then would mean death to the human race as we know it. The cough to the face is deadly enough in my opinion and will still make this Ebola a widespread disease and almost certain pandemic proportions. I doubt any form of containment is even possible even with the non-aerosol version.
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