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CDC Chief: US Won't 'Seal Borders' Against Ebola
Newser ^ | August 3 2014 | Polly Davis Doig

Posted on 08/03/2014 1:38:28 PM PDT by PoloSec

(Newser) – The US is treating the American doctor who contracted Ebola, and isn't about to turn tail on the virus. "Ebola’s scary, and it’s understandable that with a deadly disease, people are concerned," says CDC director Tom Frieden, but for those who would have us turn victims away, "the plain truth is, we can stop Ebola. We know how to control it. We’re not going to hermetically seal the borders of the US. We’re reliant and interdependent with the world for travel, for trade, for the economy, for our families and communities." Frieden tells ABC, via Politico, that the CDC is sending 50 staffers to West Africa because, he says, "The single most important thing we can do to protect Americans is to stop this disease at the source in Africa."


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To: Nifster
National assisted suicide...
101 posted on 08/03/2014 8:39:03 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: null and void

our NAZI overlords will be smiling


102 posted on 08/03/2014 8:45:54 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: bgill

We already had one illegal with untreatable TB on the loose. They did find him finally but no telling how many he infected.

Most of our kids haven’t been inoculated for many of the diseases they are bringing in and that makes it more serious. I dread the thought of Polio!!

No telling what they are hiding.


103 posted on 08/03/2014 9:01:30 PM PDT by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: KittyKares
That is so typical of the Obama administration and the US government. They take 4 positions on every issue.

The first position is we must keep Ebola in Africa at its source.

The second position is we can control the disease and bringing it it into the US does not present a problem.

Now let us guess what positions 3 and 4 will be. We know position 4 will be the absolute worse position a government could take, but what is that and how do we get there through position 3 ?

104 posted on 08/03/2014 10:48:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I hope #4 does not turn out to be bringing all the sick in Africa to the U.S. in order to give them the very best treatment possible.


105 posted on 08/03/2014 11:01:43 PM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: KittyKares

That is a possibility. Perhaps a better candidate for position #3.


106 posted on 08/03/2014 11:23:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: mdmathis6
I'm a former EMS/first responder, working scientist, and great-grandfather, here.

You are the one hung up on faggots, but you can't see the people in your cafeteria picking their nose with the little plastic gloves on. Have fun with that.

Sure, the homosexuals will likely die in droves, but that won't be limited to them--and most of them seem to have a death wish, anyway.

It's the average people, the 98% who are already clueless about pathogens, and who will get infected by their habitual behaviours. We've had two, nearly three generations who have been accustomed to antibiotics taking care of most everything, and they are the ones who don't practice good personal hygiene.

Pull your head out of your scrubs and observe the rest of the world--they'll go like flies if this stuff gets out and people who keep harping on the 'gayness' of vulnerability will just make it easier for the average schmuck to spread or contract it because the average schmuck has been conditioned to think of "bodily fluids" as blood, semen, or vaginal secretions--they don't think of surfaces contaminated with sweat carrying a viral load.

Normalcy bias? No.

I am successful at what I do because I readily adapt to changing paradigms depending on locale.

Keep your ICU, pal, I won't be anywhere near it. Why, there are sick people there!

107 posted on 08/04/2014 3:34:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: PoloSec

108 posted on 08/04/2014 4:29:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

RIP....America!

You keep fiddling and adjusting to your paradigms oh “former ems first responder” and I’ll probably contract a disease from a paradigm shift progressives couldn’t cover up or put a political spin on. I don’t see my self cutting and running when plague victims of all sorts of backgrounds should start flooding out hospitals. Yeah even the “fa——s” you think I’m hung up on.

I am looking at the situation in terms of most likely early vectors not from a moral view point. That includes IV drug abusers as well as heterosexuals engaging with multiple partners in high risk sexual practices. From those vectors the disease can and will spread. Americans are better fed and have better immune systems so many could well tolerate the early symptoms, not feeling as sick early on until their systems just crash.(thus continuing their risky behaviors while actually already carriers) Many cases may be atypical, just passed off as the flu and they seem to recover(but remain a carrier for several months) because our nutrition is generally better so some folks just won’t get as sick. It’s the atypical cases, the silent “typhoid Mary’s” that will be a problem and we will have to learn identify them early.
Now perhaps all will go well, the disease doesn’t get spread, it just dies out because enough folks get a clue and the disease in these African nations where it is rampant gets contained via proper controls and the two Americans to be treated in Atlanta are quarantined properly by the American doctors and nurses who aren’t necessarily accustomed to the extraordinary barrier measures needed to protect themselves. Maybe it will all just be peachy keen....
You also know the crowd that has been running things in DC and you also aware of our border situation and the illnesses amongst our “new friends” that our border agents and other personnel have been exposed to and are contracting as well, from these vectors. Obama’s crowd has been quite busy setting the world afire from North Africa to the Middle East and having quite a bit of fun bearding Putin as well! Now they’ve got this new “Ebola” toy to play political games with, like children with matches!

RIP....America!

( I hope you remain clever with your paradigms and you stay safe. I just have bottoms to wipe and mucky trachs to suction!)


109 posted on 08/04/2014 4:52:08 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: PoloSec; GeronL

They won’t even seal the borders to illegal immigrants with polio and scabies.


110 posted on 08/04/2014 6:49:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: Ezekiel

Hashgacha Pratis << relied on


111 posted on 08/04/2014 8:08:09 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: Dante3

Another step to harm this country.”

…and it could be the final step.


112 posted on 08/05/2014 6:46:20 AM PDT by albie
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To: PoloSec
"We’re not going to hermetically seal the borders of the US. We’re reliant and interdependent with the world for travel, for trade, for the economy, for our families and communities."

Obama Admin hopes to use Ebola to teach the Voters a lesson

Unfortunately, while SARS was still in China, Julie Gerberding (Bush's CDC chief) said almost the same thing, that "It's very important to move away from the understanding of quarantine that we had a century ago, which was really something that was often very unfair and very difficult for the people who were involved in it. That is not the kind of quarantine that we're talking about in the 21st century,".

After the Fort Hood shooting, the Army COS said,“Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse,” .

In order to hold a high executive position in the US government, under a President of either party, you have to believe in unicorns and spout nonsense when they turn on the lights.

I wish this was an Obama problem, but I'm afraid it's much bigger than that.

113 posted on 08/05/2014 7:07:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: mdmathis6
I am looking at the situation in terms of most likely early vectors not from a moral view point. That includes IV drug abusers as well as heterosexuals engaging with multiple partners in high risk sexual practices. From those vectors the disease can and will spread.

Likely vectors are international travelers and business people (first thing they do is shake hands) who came into contact with sick people or with virons they shed on countertops, handrails, virtually any surface. Sexual contact and exchange of blood are NOT required to catch this disease. Someone washing a corpse for burial can catch it.

While some of them may be homosexuals, I seriously doubt you'd bust the 5% mark if you don't count the stewards on the flight.

You just can't get past the homos and the needles, can you?

The guy who is running a fever who gets off to make the connecting flight after coming back from working in Africa is a likely vector. That includes oil workers, salespeople, and the like.

I'm pretty far removed from the sorts of major air hubs that cater to these folks, and by the time anyone is showing symptoms, they'd have to be really fast to get this far out in the boonies.

Our biggest worries out this way would be getting the local grid back up and food for the first winter. That isn't saying we're immune to being infected, just that we are remote enough to make it unlikely compared to major urban areas. Those areas have the concentrations of people and venues likely to expose the populations to infected people, and literally tons of common contact surfaces those of us in the sticks just don't have.

If you have a bitch to pitch about the intestinal fortitude of guys who wrapped up accident victims (after we peeled the car from around them while kneeling in a puddle of gasoline), go for it Oh ICU controlled environment person). I no longer do the job, because (as I noted) I'm a great grandpa, and not in the same shape I was in when I was 25. At this age, it is best to get out of the way and let a younger man do that job.

Good luck to you (I mean that). You'll need it, because you will likely be exposed long before I will.

114 posted on 08/09/2014 11:37:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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