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Alcoholic Friend, Mental judo and worried all night if he's okay.
Vanity | 7/24/2014 | Vendome

Posted on 07/24/2014 6:18:53 AM PDT by Vendome

Having ream trouble supporting an alcoholic Friend.

He's been in Hollywood business for years and literally screwed up his life.

He's spent most of the last twenty years in jail for his stupid behavior.

Likes to promise people a good time, dinner and drinks but, consistently leaves people hanging with the check.

If he's not doing that, then he's walking into restaurants, bars and hotels, then getting busted for defrauding an inn keeper.

There are drunks, lousy drunks and terrible drunks. Of course, he has to be a terrible drunk. Alters his mind and he gets verbally combative, aggressive or outright loses his mind and decides assault is going to be his nirvana.

Hell, he's been busted for so many stupid things I can't recall.

His life is not informed by rules that guide, rather it is a life of constant manipulation, scheming and adolescent thought that borders, no it is, lunacy.


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To: Vendome

I’ve been there done that - with a husband.

This friend is an alcoholic and that’s probably not the only serious issue he has. As long as you are “helping”, he will not change. You are simply extending his “career” as an alcoholic.

No more help until he helps himself - really helps himself - not just another manipulation, but real concrete steps.

This relationship is toxic to you. Not helping him either. Those things are really hard to accept initially. Even harder to do.


21 posted on 07/24/2014 7:22:55 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Vendome

I had a friend my entire adult life who was in many ways similar to what you describe. Always manipulating, lying and cheating (I paid you that loan back). Working a regular job was beneath him so he sold securities and insurance but always referred to his clients as suckers. He was a major leftist and I finally cut ties with him almost two decades ago. He died in poverty and alone a couple of years ago.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 7:24:54 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Vendome

He needs Jesus.

Seriously. He does not have the power to help himself.

And you will exhaust yourself trying to help him.

He has done this gig so long, he knows all the tricks to manipulate people.

He was given a gift and he squandered it.

He refuses to believe that.

You are a good hearted soul, one of the few people left that have not cut ties to him.

He needs to know you are out of his life unless he makes a radical change.

You cannot make a person change their life. They have to want to change their life.

And he will not change unless he has absolutely no other choice.

He needs heavenly help, with power from the Holy Spirit.

John Chapter 3 tells him the only way to get it.


23 posted on 07/24/2014 7:26:27 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Vendome

Don’t be an enabler.

Take him to an AA meeting and plant the seed of recovery.

And you can attend an Al-Anon meeting — it’s just not for women.


24 posted on 07/24/2014 7:32:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vendome
Let Go and Let God
25 posted on 07/24/2014 7:34:24 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mr. K
You are helping to keep him from hitting that bottom.

That's exactly the problem. Keep enabling and he'll never hit bottom where the only way out is up.

26 posted on 07/24/2014 7:35:33 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Vendome

Millions of people would give anything to have what he has: Access to the “Movie Stars” and writers, directors and producers. And he just tosses it in the garbage like a used Kleenex?


27 posted on 07/24/2014 7:37:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Vendome

God bless him,he needs to go into rehab.I will pray for him.


28 posted on 07/24/2014 7:39:13 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Vendome

Your friend is an alcoholic. Are you in recovery through AA? I recommend you also attend Al Anon Meetings. They will be a big help for YOUR sanity. You can’t change your friend. But you can change yourself. Prayers up for you and of your friend. You can recommend he look into AA and then let it go. He is in charge of his own life and choices.


29 posted on 07/24/2014 7:50:29 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Salvation
Let Go and Let God

absolutely!

30 posted on 07/24/2014 7:51:43 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: IronJack

Yeah I know. I’m not being manipulated. I don’t like it and I quash that stuff easy.

I’m his Mom’s best friend and she asked me to help him.

Told her before we left I thought he was getting ready to go off the rails again.

We understood the risk and agreed to let this experiment run.

If he fails, well he’ll have to accept his big boy decision but, it’s been made clear to him “ this is it. Don’t destroy our faith, because we have the ability to walk and you’ll be Flintstoning every where you walk from now on”.

Just an experiment and I’m going to have a hard talk witb them when I get home.

We just got off the phone and we’re all in agreement.

Live by your rules and we’ll accept your terms.


31 posted on 07/24/2014 8:06:27 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: camle

BINGO!


32 posted on 07/24/2014 8:07:19 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Vendome
The Serenity Prayer

The Serenity Prayer

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.

--Reinhold Niebuhr

In loving memory of
Fr Bertram Griffin -- 1932-2000
Requiescat in Pace

Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will direct your paths.

Proverbs 3, 5-6

 


33 posted on 07/24/2014 8:13:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vendome
The Serenity Prayer

The Serenity Prayer

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.

--Reinhold Niebuhr

In loving memory of
Fr Bertram Griffin -- 1932-2000
Requiescat in Pace

Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will direct your paths.

Proverbs 3, 5-6

 


34 posted on 07/24/2014 8:15:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: atc23

Roxbury Men’s Stag Wed 8:00PM Olympic Blvd.
Beverly Hills Tell him to stick his hand up and ask for help!


35 posted on 07/24/2014 8:17:17 AM PDT by Blacksheep (There are no coincidences......)
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To: Vendome

Delete his number out of your cell phone. Forget his name and move on. Maybe get some counseling as to why you are mixed up with this kind of person. Seriously.


36 posted on 07/24/2014 8:25:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Vendome
This guy has an illness, and will not get well until every single person enabling him shuts him out of their world.

If he calls, just refer him to AA.

37 posted on 07/24/2014 8:32:28 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Ditter

We just decided that.

He has a meeting with his director, who knows his past. It’ll be obvious and his other partner knows his past as well.

They are concerned and this thing’ll fall apart in an hour.


38 posted on 07/24/2014 8:37:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: camle; Vendome
Roger that.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

39 posted on 07/24/2014 8:41:17 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Vendome

I know a guy exactly like that. A brilliant man, a gifted musician, but he was also his own worst enemy. Chased all his friends and relatives away with his drunken antics. Then one day he woke up in a jail cell with two black eyes, knots upside his head, and bruises all over him. And he had no idea how he got there, because he’d had a blackout. Later he learned that he had gotten into a bar fight with an undercover cop, who called his backup and proceeded to beat the crap out of my friend. They nailed him for assault on police officers, and he wound up doing eighteen months in jail. That was his “rock bottom”. He cleaned up his act in a hurry after that, and hasn’t touched a drink since he got out about a year ago. So there is still help for your friend. All it takes is one life-altering experience caused by excessive drinking.


40 posted on 07/24/2014 8:49:56 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy)
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