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The Pitfalls of Modern Capitalism
Catholic Analysis ^ | 24 July 2014 | James Kohn

Posted on 07/24/2014 3:25:34 AM PDT by matthewrobertolson

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To: Alberta's Child
Alberta's Child: "A home is not a "means of production," is it?"

Of course it is, and has always been -- why would you fanaticize or theorize otherwise?
Homes have always been a place of work -- for economic, social & family 'production'.

FRiend, I'm hoping to figure out where you're coming from, and trying not to jump on you too hard, too fast.
So what exactly is this nonsense about making distinctions between various "categories" of property?
How can some property be "good" and others "bad"?
Who, exactly, is going to decide which is which?
Will these Masters-of-Morality be elected, appointed or self-appointed?

Alberta's Child: "an economic system built around people living in their "own" homes -- usually with large mortgages -- and then traveling somewhere else miles away to work for someone else is an economic system built on sand.
So many principles of sound economics are put at risk in this type of scenario."

FRiend, you seem wholly confused.
Do you not "get" that every human being on the face of the planet works "for someone else".
Everyone has a boss, or customers, clients, renters, shareholders, or law enforcement they must satisfy.
Even retirees must submit the proper forms after serving the time required by their contracts.

Indeed, most people have many bosses to satisfy, including their families and communities.
So what exactly is your problem with this?

Alberta's Child: "In a system built on sound economic principles, the only real property ownership involves property that is used as a means of production."

First of all, all property, without exception produces something.
So your notion of somehow distinguishing one type of property from another is an exercise in ridiculousness.
Why do you do it?

Alberta's Child: "The modern idea of 'property ownership' that we've come to accept as normal is really a construct of the post-WW2 era."

More rubbish!
The only thing that's seriously changed is technology.
Basic laws of property ownership are essentially the same today as they've been for 150 years.

So why do you invent such nonsense?

21 posted on 07/24/2014 5:47:51 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: matthewrobertolson

Nobody ever said that Capitalism was perfect or had no flaws.

It is merely the best out of all the other systems in an imperfect world.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 5:55:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: matthewrobertolson
True, enlightened capitalism, while inferior to distributism,

Stopped reading right there. Distributism is just Communism with a Catholic face.

Distributism's stated goal, that of as wide a distributed base of property and the means of production, is ONLY achievable in a free market Capitalist system where no artificial monopoly power is granted to anyone.

23 posted on 07/24/2014 6:02:42 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: matthewrobertolson

Property ownership?

No one in the United States is allowed to own property. You will never be allowed to do so and to profess it is a downright lie.

The GOVERNMENT owns 100% of all land and property in America. You simply LEASE it on a yearly basis. If you don’t pay your lease (taxes) they will take the property back and you will be without nothing.

Do you have freedom to work and spend the money you make the way you like? No! The government simply LEASES you the right to use the American fiat script (dollars) to purchase. If you don’t pay the lease (income taxes) they will come and take both the script and property from you.

There is no financial freedom in America. It is all controlled by the government on all levels and crony capitalism is rampant while sucking at the teat of the government hog.

IT’S ALL A RIGGED GAME FOR YOU DON’T ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING!


24 posted on 07/24/2014 7:02:08 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: matthewrobertolson

Oingo Boingo - Capitalism

There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don’t try to make me feel guilty
I’m so tired of hearing you cry

There’s nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask, I’ll say it’s just fine
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
So tired of hearing you whine

About the revolution, bringing down the rich
When was the last time you dug a ditch, baby

If it ain’t one thing, then it’s the other
Any cause that crosses your path
Your heart bleeds for anyone’s brother
I’ve got to tell you, you’re a pain in the ass

You criticize with plenty of vigor
You rationalize everything that you do
With catchy phrases and heavy quotations
And everybody is crazy but you

You’re just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And now you tell me that we’ve got to get back
To the struggling masses, whoever they are

You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain
What the hell do you know about suffering and pain?

There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don’t try to make me feel guilty
I’m so tired of hearing you cry

There’s nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask I’ll say it’s just fine
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
So tired of hearing you whine

You’re just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And now you tell me that we’ve got to get back
To the struggling masses, whoever they are

You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain

There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism


25 posted on 07/24/2014 7:03:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: matthewrobertolson

On as scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is fascism and 10 is capitalism , where are we now?


26 posted on 07/24/2014 7:10:44 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: killermosquito

3 or 4.


27 posted on 07/24/2014 7:52:05 AM PDT by matthewrobertolson
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To: killermosquito

Ping


28 posted on 07/26/2014 6:43:10 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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