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It’s Time for Conservatives to Stop Defending Police
nationalreview ^

Posted on 07/22/2014 9:32:19 PM PDT by chessplayer

Imagine if I were to tell you there is a large group of government employees, with generous salaries and ridiculously cushy retirement pensions covered by the taxpayer, who enjoy incredible job security and are rarely held accountable even for activities that would almost certainly earn the rest of us prison time. When there is proven misconduct, these government employees are merely reassigned and are rarely dismissed. The bill for any legal settlements concerning their errors? It, too, is covered by the taxpayers. Their unions are among the strongest in the country.

No, I’m not talking about public-school teachers.

I’m talking about the police.

We conservatives recoil at the former; yet routinely defend the latter — even though, unlike teachers, police officers enjoy an utter monopoly on force and can ruin — or end — one’s life in a millisecond.

On Thursday in Staten Island, an asthmatic 43-year-old father of six, Eric Garner, died after a group of policemen descended on him, placing him in a chokehold while attempting to arrest him for allegedly selling cigarettes. A bystander managed to capture video in which Garner clearly cries out, “I can’t breathe!” Even after releasing the chokehold (chokeholds, incidentally, are prohibited by NYPD protocol), the same officer then proceeds to shove and hold Garner’s face against the ground, applying his body weight and pressure on Garner, ignoring Garner’s pleas that he cannot breathe. Worse yet, new video shows at least eight officers standing around Garner’s lifeless, unconscious body.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: copsarescum; donutwatch; leo
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To: catnipman
>"In standoffs where no one is in danger but an individual stanoffee, he’s always told me that his strategy is just to wait around until the guy comes out,"

That is a Peace Officer.

The others are Nazis authorized to shoot what ever because they have a badge and gun.

141 posted on 07/23/2014 10:15:40 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: KJC1

You are a great cop...!


142 posted on 07/23/2014 10:48:02 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: jsanders2001

This isn’t about individual cops. Its about a system that has gone amuck.

Cops are supposed to be peace officers, not a paramilitary army of occupation that can get away with anything it chooses.

The militarization of the police in place of a the citizen National Guard is one of the gravest threats to individual civil liberties in America today.

And remember, unlike nearly all other government officials and employees, hey ultimately answer to no one but themselves.

I defend them when they are right, but criticize them when they are wrong and the author of this piece is dead right on.


143 posted on 07/23/2014 11:51:16 AM PDT by ZULU (Go REDSKINS!!! Impeach Obama!!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ..



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144 posted on 07/23/2014 2:52:07 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: jsanders2001

Never let the government unionize against you.

Who can stop the police today? It will take a huge, long term national campaign, to get the police back under the control of the citizens.

It will be the democrats and the left against the conservatives, it won’t start completely that way at first, but in time, as the battle lines harden and the politics of the situation become more clear, we will discover that unionized city and state employees are a force of the left.


145 posted on 07/23/2014 3:10:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: bamahead

N.C. police officers accused of faking 911 calls to gain entry
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3180602/posts

Reform how citizen lawsuits get paid out cities for police misconduct(by taxpayers who had nothing to do with it)
IE: take it out of their pension or departmental funding or pay (or all of the above) and you’ll see shenanigans end real quick.
Or auction off their MRAPs.


146 posted on 07/23/2014 3:18:44 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: jsanders2001

Not falling for it “chess player” or whoever the original author is.
I will support the peace keepers and enforcers until they are no longer law abiding.
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Filing a false police report is called tampering with public records. It’s a felony. If this wasn’t recorded do you want to see what the police report would have said? Some of these cops Missed their calling in life. They are very creative and should be writing for cop shows on network TV. They are very talented....

On July 20 I was on routine patrol. I saw a man with a kiosk and neon lights Advertising cigarettes for sale on the sidewalk. Having probable cause I approached the man and told him that selling cigarettes on the sidewalk is illegal, sir, I will have to ask you to please cease and desist.

The man stood up in a threatening manner. It was then that I noticed the strong odor of alcohol and marijuana on his breath.

He said “f&$:) you I will kill you and your family”. Then he whipped out a machete and pair of nunchucks and an AK-47 assault rifle and pointed it at us. I said Sir, you are under arrest for possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose. Please put your hands behind your back.

He said “f$;45& you I’m going to open fire”

Fearing for our safety, we had no choice other than to circle him like a pack of lions and take him down Like a wildebeest.


147 posted on 07/23/2014 3:26:15 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: wardaddy

Same here ..... Yet I will defend the good ones and do everything in my power to F5 the bad ones in my area of operations..... Do not ever fire a cop for cause and leave them with their certifications and commissions . Strip em of ever working in law enforcement again . Ya want fries with that ?

Hope yer well...stay safe WD !


148 posted on 07/23/2014 3:52:20 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Respond Code Three; jsanders2001; Jack Hydrazine
It's not the individuals, it's the profession. When the police see someone with facial hair or tatoos, and automatically thinks, "scumbag who needs to be questioned", we have a serious problem. And that IS the "cop mentality".

Until the 'good cops' stand up and speak out against the small percentage of 'bad cops', they are all bad.

149 posted on 07/23/2014 3:59:56 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: KJC1

It isn’t just what they get away with. It’s the other cops who will not stand up to them and allow them to get away with what they do.


150 posted on 07/23/2014 4:14:57 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: dragnet2

I guess your opponent couldn’t come up with anything but snark, so he admitted it, and quit...


151 posted on 07/23/2014 5:09:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Respond Code Three

Here’s another one for you then:

Drunk deputy arrests female soldier at bar for rejecting him;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkhrWZ6twjw


152 posted on 07/23/2014 6:20:16 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: catnipman

Really? Then if you have the time perhaps you might peruse the following linked vid, but be warned that it is a long piece...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmGWLsn0iM


153 posted on 07/23/2014 6:26:32 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

>>Most,if not all the other, honorable profession cant end your career or life in a millisecond.<<

I am going to guess and believe that what you intended to say was that cops have a job where their life can end in a millisecond. Truckers, roofers, steel workers, electricians, heavy equipment operators, crane operators, pilots, shall I go on? The list is very long.


154 posted on 07/23/2014 6:53:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Respond Code Three

Do you think there are no cops that see the average, law-abiding citizen as the enemy?


155 posted on 07/23/2014 7:13:32 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Respond Code Three

Can you provide evidence that you have any knowledge pertaining to the increasing prevalence of socialist ideology influencing police departments nationwide?

Or that you have any credibility in commenting on this?


156 posted on 07/23/2014 7:19:33 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: B4Ranch

I’m guessing no one ever told him what exactly the military does in real life. Speaking as a veteran, I know.


157 posted on 07/23/2014 7:22:54 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer
"I’m guessing no one ever told him what exactly the military does in real life. Speaking as a veteran, I know."

EGGSactly Batman!

Cops live a much safer life than say a Catapult operator on a US air Craft Carrier, or an Army Caravan Driver in the Middle East, or a Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer not mention the guys responsible for deactivating IEDs and that list can go on and on and on.

Truth is the majority of cops are in more danger of dying of a heart attack than getting shot. Not because they are lazy but because their duties keep many of them riding around in cars most of the day and they don't get much exercise...

Now the problem is that people are getting a look at how bad cops operate and those videos are having an effect on how the population views LEOs...

Too many morons with badges and guns violating rights makes ALL LEOs look bad. If it's not stamped down soon there will come a tipping point. And once we cross that line it will take much blood sweat and tears before we get back to where the police are trusted again.

158 posted on 07/23/2014 7:37:30 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Utilizer

My combat pay was $95 a month. What are cops paid nowadays?


159 posted on 07/23/2014 7:42:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: KJC1; Respond Code Three

What are you going to do when you receive orders to go around and confiscate the weapons of all CCW permit holders?

I’d appreciate an answer from each of you.


160 posted on 07/23/2014 7:44:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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