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US: No Link to Russian Gov't in Plane Downing
The Associated Press ^ | Tuesday, July 22, 2014 | Ken Dilanian

Posted on 07/22/2014 2:32:53 PM PDT by kristinn

Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Tuesday that Russia was responsible for "creating the conditions" that led to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, but they offered no evidence of direct Russian government involvement.

The intelligence officials were cautious in their assessment, noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine, the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia.

The officials briefed reporters Tuesday under ground rules that their names not be used in discussing intelligence related to last week's air disaster, which killed 298 people.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17; russia; ukraine
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To: 1rudeboy
(Just trying to understand the Russian mentality).

If you want to understand the Russian mentality, just drink a quart of vodka some morning.

81 posted on 07/22/2014 4:39:16 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Obmam can’t play the game cause he won’t and can’t figure out the cards he has....so he’s the run away one in that tune.


82 posted on 07/22/2014 4:39:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: justa-hairyape

Obmam can’t play the game cause he won’t and can’t figure out the cards he has....so he’s the run away one in that tune.


83 posted on 07/22/2014 4:39:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: dforest

..”like a civil war would be here now”....

Yes there were all once Soviets, but the newer generation doesn’t buy into that. Still they were all RUssians at one time..so not only do they know how each fights and about each other....Putin knows them too...unlike the West and Obama who are always trying to figure out why they do what they do and don’t behave like Americans! LOL

You know who could handle Putin, Bush....like butter in his hands was Putin..and Putin was glad to let it appear that way...he liked Bush for two reasons...One they understood each ones vocabulary well....two... Bush ‘respected’ Putin (with one eye open)and knew that was necessary to do business that they both wanted to do and accomplish. They spent time building trust and spoke in public favorably of one another even though we knew the cards they were playing. As long as their “friendship” endured we had peaceful times with Russia......


84 posted on 07/22/2014 4:48:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: newnhdad
It’s obvious that Putin didn’t push the button but his people did and it was an accident.. why can’t they just admit it and move on?

That has kind of been my take since Day 1. Unless there is some really bizarre, and nefarious Spy vs Spy stuff going on here, it sure sounds like the Russian backed rebels launched a missile at what they believed to be a Ukrainian plane. In other words they screwed up royally. It happens in war zones. Unfortunately we had a similar tragic mistake in the Gulf of Hormuz some years ago where we also took down a passenger plane.
The moral to the story is to take the long way home, rather than fly near jumpy people.

85 posted on 07/22/2014 4:50:31 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: caww

One thing is certain The people who run Obama have bull in china shop diplomacy. Their machinations create hate and havoc everywhere they meddle in. Including America. Criminals all of them.


86 posted on 07/22/2014 4:52:37 PM PDT by dforest
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To: caww
Obama plays every hand. Then tells his opponent, don't call my bluff. And you are correct, if that is your strategy, your hand does not matter. In fact playing that way without even looking at your cards, will get better results. So I don't think the Gambler had ever meant someone like Obama before in his travels.

Or as someone else once stated, like playing chess with a pigeon.

87 posted on 07/22/2014 4:58:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Russia made a point to state the US knew through it’s satellite coverage.....and how they would know it was or not actively over the area when this happened.

At question was the airline going off radar and why...and who was flying the jets then as well as other information they shared....if those questions, (politely framed), could not be answered then low and behold someone had to fold....and it wasn’t going to be Russia and Obama knew it.


88 posted on 07/22/2014 4:59:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy

More Jr. High level ad hominems, eh?? You must be a real blast at parties.


89 posted on 07/22/2014 5:01:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: justa-hairyape

...”like playing chess with a pigeon”...

Exactly right. Unfortunately a great embarrassment to our country...and then some. At times it can really get to me because we have no leadership at all!


90 posted on 07/22/2014 5:03:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

Only as long as there are no neo-Bolsheviks there. [hint]


91 posted on 07/22/2014 5:03:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kristinn
Wow they came up with that without even looking at the wreckage at the crime scene.

They must have used their new psychic capabilities.

Either that or this statement was the price that had to be paid for the thugs of Donetsk to release the 282 252 232 200 bodies that they had.

Ehh -- who's counting at this point.

92 posted on 07/22/2014 5:03:33 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: caww

You can BET Putin never said, “We talk with these people. We assume that they are decent. But he lies,”, during the Bush years....


93 posted on 07/22/2014 5:04:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: keat

The Zero-in-Chief doesn’t care what happens to a bunch of white people.


94 posted on 07/22/2014 5:05:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Organic Panic

I’d love to know who was across the table from him that got that kind of reaction.


95 posted on 07/22/2014 5:06:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: SunkenCiv

I really think Barry cares for no one really. His hate for regular old white people is obvious, but he really doesn’t care about blacks either. He just uses them.


96 posted on 07/22/2014 5:07:43 PM PDT by dforest
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To: kristinn

that is absolute nonsense...none of the rebels were trained to fire that sophisticated piece of military equipment. A russian military person fired it ....period. Russia is 100% liable for this disaster and we should NEVER let them off...


97 posted on 07/22/2014 5:10:04 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: caww

On second thought, you are exactly correct. The Gambler would run away from Obama. And that is what everyone in the world is doing. Heck, even the head of Turkey wont take his calls anymore. And many freepers ran away from him over 5 years ago. So apparently the Gambler had run into Obama types.


98 posted on 07/22/2014 5:11:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: terycarl

They can fire them. I was reading today that it isn’t that hard. Since everyone there is from Ukraine, it would stand to figure that some of these guys were in Ukraine military prior to the coup.


99 posted on 07/22/2014 5:13:14 PM PDT by dforest
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To: kristinn

Odumbo is trying to weasel his way out of having to do something. He’s got a vacation, you know. Doing something would require WORK.

Oh wait, it is better for the country if Obama is on vacation.


100 posted on 07/22/2014 5:13:52 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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