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Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal
CNBC.com ^ | July 22, 2014 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 07/22/2014 7:30:07 AM PDT by gwjack

This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates. In a potentially crippling blow to Obamacare, a top federal appeals court Tuesday said that billions of dollars worth of government subsidies that helped 4.7 million people buy insurance on HealthCare.gov are not legal under the Affordable Care Act.

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KEYWORDS: halbig; obamacare; subsidies
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“o problemo. Zero will just get out his pen and his phone and presto changeo law of the land.”

Zero actually already did that.

This court order says he cannot.


21 posted on 07/22/2014 7:39:49 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: MHGinTN
John Roberts is owned...  photo gty_john_roberts_obama_jef_120628_wblog.jpg
22 posted on 07/22/2014 7:39:50 AM PDT by RetSignman (obama: "For the love of Alinsky, how much more do I have to do to get them to impeach me"?)
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To: PJ-Comix

Could be. 30 ish.


23 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:07 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

This is gonna leave a really big skidmark.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:08 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: circlecity

He’ll find out after ESPN goes off the air.


25 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Jewbacca

I wouldn’t be surprised to see an IRS audit in here somewhere for the members of this court.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:23 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: gwjack

If its appealed to the full Circuit, keep in mind that Obama has packed it with his appointees so we may get a quick reversal. Hopefully it goes to th Supreme Court. At the very least, it will make Roberts squirm.


27 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: circlecity

Lol. Got a chuckle from that.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:49 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Jewbacca

He’ll do it again. You watch.


29 posted on 07/22/2014 7:41:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: gwjack
So it begins.

It may have begun with the Hobby Lobby decision, but this and one more coming up from a Corp. ( that is claimed to be maybe even more powerful that the HL decision ) are all little hands pushing ever so gently on Humpty-Dumpty's back and he is wobbling to say the least...

30 posted on 07/22/2014 7:41:50 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: gwjack
Twitter Senator Ted Cruz ‏@SenTedCruz 3m 2.A significant victory for the American people & rule of law, but we must not rest http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1566 … #FullRepeal
31 posted on 07/22/2014 7:41:59 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("The Border Is On Fire & Washington Is Sending Us Gasoline" AZ Ranchers John Ladd & Fred Davis 7/14)
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To: DAC21

We should use this against them, and talk about how this is what happens when you pass a 2000 page law which nobody has read.

Clearly the law was written sloppily, to have this major oversight in it. We know what the intention was with the subsidies. But, the court to their credit was reading and interpreting the actual text of what the law says.

And that’s the basis for their decision. Let Pelosi etc. defend how they wrote and passed this bill in the first place. Let’s hit Pelosi over the head with her giant gavel.


32 posted on 07/22/2014 7:42:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: gwjack
"The ruling endorsed a controversial interpretation of the Affordable Care Act that argues that the HealthCare.gov subsidies are illegal because ACA does not explicitly empower a federal exchange to offer subsidized coverage, as it does in the case of state-created exchanges."

Oops. Guess Nancy just found out about something not in the law now that they've passed it.

More to the point, though: I just don't understand how on earth a judge - even a biased one - could rule in favor of the Administration if the law indicates one thing in one place and another thing somewhere else. Judges just can't "fix" errors in the text.

33 posted on 07/22/2014 7:43:01 AM PDT by alancarp
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To: gwjack

I wouldn’t celebrate too soon. It fits perfectly with the plan. Even though this will be challenged by the Obama administration I can’t help but think that they anticipated that and that the ensuing chaos—and there will be major chaos if this is upheld— is all part of the plan to destroy the current health care system in order to replace it with total socialized medicine.


34 posted on 07/22/2014 7:43:14 AM PDT by newheart (The greatest trick the Left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: gwjack
Friday's bombshell ruling by the appeals court is expected to be met by Obama Administration asking for a panel made up of all the judges in the same circuit to review the ruling.

If it fails at that level, the administration can ask the Supreme Court to reverse the ruling.

That is not part of the legal process. In fact it may be illegal.

This should go direct to the Supreme Court.

35 posted on 07/22/2014 7:43:32 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: yldstrk

The “bronze” plans only kick in after the policy holder has accrued a huge hospital bill, too.


36 posted on 07/22/2014 7:43:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: All

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/22/obamacare-dealt-serious-setback/?1#.U854L-SELzA.twitter


37 posted on 07/22/2014 7:44:11 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("The Border Is On Fire & Washington Is Sending Us Gasoline" AZ Ranchers John Ladd & Fred Davis 7/14)
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To: gwjack

NBC - In a potentially lethal blow to Obamacare, a federal appeals court has ruled that the federal government may not subsidize health insurance plans bought by people in states that decided not to set up their own marketplaces under Obamacare.

The law clearly says that states are to set up the exchanges. But 34 states opted not to, and the federal government took over in those states. The court ruled that federal government may not pay subsidies for insurance plans in those states.


38 posted on 07/22/2014 7:45:03 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Either way it will be decided by the Supremes, no?


39 posted on 07/22/2014 7:45:22 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: gwjack

I’m not sure why anyone thinks this is the end of Obamacare? The next logical step in the”progression” ( notice the quotes around the derivation of the word progress?) is full blown federal health care.

Can’t you hear them? “All these people have invested in Obamacare. We can’t throw them to the wolves. We have to pay for it all!”


40 posted on 07/22/2014 7:45:36 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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