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1 posted on 07/17/2014 8:55:30 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_PLANE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-07-17-12-00-29

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said his country’s armed forces didn’t shoot at any airborne targets.


85 posted on 07/17/2014 9:44:46 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, just about any route looks like overflight of multiple war zones is involved these days.

As Malaysia Airlines is in bankruptcy now, this will probably stick a fork in it.


86 posted on 07/17/2014 9:45:18 AM PDT by wrench
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Are we sure it wasn’t MH 370?


90 posted on 07/17/2014 9:57:20 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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Why is the ICAO routing commercial flights over Ukraine ?

92 posted on 07/17/2014 10:03:15 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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Top of the hour news indicates there are more casualties from folks on the ground so it must have crashed in a populated area.
I would not get on a Malaysian air liner if my life depended on it


93 posted on 07/17/2014 10:07:04 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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This is what happens when you get conscripted farmboys and/or rebel militia operating a SAM site.


98 posted on 07/17/2014 10:41:59 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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Am seeing reports of 23 Americans aboard. RIP

Also, aircraft was north of normally traveled route due to local weather.

And, possible Ukraine/Russian military airspace overlap, and the rebels did have at least one BUK system.

Very sad and complicated situation


100 posted on 07/17/2014 11:07:00 AM PDT by wrench
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White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Monday the Obama administration’s foreign policies in a number of areas have enhanced the world’s “tranquility” – a word that raised eyebrows as reporters pointed to situations in Gaza, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Ukraine and the South China Sea.

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/topic/252024-lwnj-betaverse-quote-of-the-day-barry-obamas-white-house-boasts-tranquility-of-global-community/


105 posted on 07/17/2014 11:39:02 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... you don't want to go there, buddy.)
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Would be interesting if it turned out this aircraft was NOT shotdown but that Boeing has a problem with their 777’s suddenly dropping out of the sky and crashing (MH-370 too?).


106 posted on 07/17/2014 11:40:45 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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Trial run. Coming soon to an airport near you. Prolly not tomorrow, but soon.

This is gonna all come crashing down. The folks that allowed the ragheads to get these missiles should do hard time for a long time. That includes nobama.

When it’s discovered that these missiles are being smuggled over our southern border, don’t count on me to be surprised.


112 posted on 07/17/2014 12:08:11 PM PDT by upchuck (The country is being billed for its own execution. ~ h/t: SpaceBar)
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Update from Buzzfeed. Even the terrorists sound surprised that they shot down a passenger plane:

English translation of the conversation intercepted by SBU. Kyiv Post’s Chris Miller reports that the conversation is between Igor Bezler, a Russian military intelligence officer and a leading commander of the Donetsk People’s Republic.

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo.

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. It’s smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.

“Major”: These are Chernukhin folks show down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.

“Grek”: Yes, Major.

“Major”: The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200.” A Civilian.

“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?

“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.

“Greek”: Are many people there?

“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).

“Greek”: What kind of aircraft?

“Major”: I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats, and bodies.

“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?

“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.

“Greek”: Are there documents?

“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.


119 posted on 07/17/2014 3:03:22 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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Number raised to 298. Three babies were added to death toll
Might want to change title or add to it


128 posted on 07/17/2014 6:19:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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