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Look Who's Arriving on the NAFTA Train
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2014 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 07/15/2014 9:24:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: 1rudeboy

Then don’t post a comment that we are “trading our jobs for free” on a public forum.


I won’t be running anything I post on this site by you.


61 posted on 07/15/2014 11:58:38 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Then don’t state that you don’t wish to continue, either.


62 posted on 07/15/2014 11:59:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“I don’t think Putin is the second coming. I wouldn’t want to be ruled by him but he’s definitely not as bad as the Globalist trash says he is ...”

If you think a reconstructed Soviet Union is a good thing, then I suppose you would like Putin. Having lived the first 40 years of my life during the Cold War, I’ll take a pass.


63 posted on 07/15/2014 12:20:10 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: 1rudeboy

Well you did manage to divert the discussion away from the foolish claim that NAFTA had nothing to do with the illegal immigration that followed it, I’ll grant you that.

But then the fantasy world inhabited by libertarian bean counters has no concern over illegal immigration anyway. We used to get treated to the WSJ’s annual 4th of July demand for a “There Shall be Open Borders” amendment, at least until some of their Open Borders fans from Arabia flew the planes into the Twin Towers.

9-11 didn’t change the desire of Bartley and Gigot for a wide open border, it just made them shut up about it.

Which makes me wonder if the geniuses who support NAFTA ever figured out why Clinton and Gore were such heavy promoters of it. I guess they think that Clinton and Gore were the second coming of the anti-corn law league.


64 posted on 07/16/2014 12:47:56 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: factoryrat

Shut down the railway operation for a month, and watch numbers rapidly decrease.

I’d say we need to review NAFTA, and refocus on what it really did to the US economy. Nothing improved...we simply lost jobs and control over our nation.


65 posted on 07/16/2014 1:58:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Ben Ficklin
Incorrect. It actually began with Guv Bill Clements

I don't care where it began Rick supported and promoted it.

66 posted on 07/16/2014 6:08:48 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Pelham

Speaking of foolish claims, where is Schlafly’s evidence that NAFTA is responsible for illegal immigration apart from the fact that some of them hop on top of a train to get here, and Texas tried to expand its highway system?


67 posted on 07/16/2014 6:44:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: itsahoot
It wasn't just Perry who supported it. Many did.

Back then, that was the essence of the GOP. Move away from taxes to user fees(tolls). Get the govt out of it and let the private sector build and operate the roads. In the 90s they knew that ending pay as you go would be controversial but they had no idea that anyone would oppose the roads.

So what happened? A populist wave swept thru the GOP and the populists opposed the roads. Behind the scenes there were groups such as developers, large cities, and others who were fomenting the populist opposition.

Now, here it is several years later, and the populist wave is wider and taller than it was then. Now, the populists are not just willing to challenge on issues, but are trying to take over the republican party.

68 posted on 07/16/2014 10:12:40 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1rudeboy

“Speaking of foolish claims, where is Schlafly’s evidence that NAFTA is responsible for illegal immigration apart from the fact that some of them hop on top of a train to get here, and Texas tried to expand its highway system?”

It’s already been mentioned several times.

NAFTA opened the Mexican market to cheaper American grain. Thousands of Mexican farms were put out of business. The unemployed Mexican farm workers headed north in a huge surge. The chain migration from this continues to the present.

Empirical evidence only seems foolish to the ideologue.


69 posted on 07/16/2014 10:38:10 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Pelham

So all that Mexican produce I see on the shelf at the grocery store . . . reduced illegal immigration because those Mexican farmers found a new market and needed the employees? Idiot.


70 posted on 07/16/2014 10:39:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

“So all that Mexican produce I see on the shelf at the grocery store . . . reduced illegal immigration because those Mexican farmers found a new market and needed the employees? Idiot.”

Produce isn’t corn or wheat which may be news to you. I realize that you think numbers reveal all but sometimes real world details are significant.

The produce we import from Mexico comes from Mennonite communities and large farms.

The small farms that used to raise grain for the Mexican tortilla trade were put out of business and the farm hands who ran them came to the US in a wave of illegal immigration.

” Idiot”

I’m sure that word occurs to many freepers who read your posts.


71 posted on 07/16/2014 1:03:31 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Pelham
It really warms my heart that you have a softer spot in your heart for Mexican farmers than for American farmers. What would we do without patriots such as yourself?

And in other words, I really appreciate your efforts to make the corn, wheat, and other produce I consume more expensive so that Mexicans have jobs.

72 posted on 07/16/2014 1:14:23 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You must really pack away the frijoles y maza to be worried that you won’t be able to afford your Taco Bell without NAFTA.

I’m sure that patriotism is the least of your concerns but your affected sentiment is heart warming.

In California we are very concerned whether or not Mexicans have jobs in their homeland.


73 posted on 07/16/2014 1:21:12 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Pelham

Then work on closing the border to illegal immigration, instead of blaming trains for them.


74 posted on 07/16/2014 1:23:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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