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The costly fantasy of impeaching Obama: The way to punish a president is at the polls
The Washington Times ^ | July 14, 2014 | Wesley Pruden

Posted on 07/15/2014 9:12:27 AM PDT by EveningStar

The Democrats owe a growing debt to the Republican red-hots pursuing the fantasy of impeaching Barack Obama. They're collecting a lot of cash -- probably not as much as they claim, but a lot -- from the naive and excitable folks in the Democratic base. Outrage is easily convertible to cash, as every bagman knows, and the Republicans should get a cut of it. Fair is fair.

Sarah Palin, who as a former governor knows better than to confuse hoping with doing, is leading the baying hounds this week. She told an audience the other day that "the many impeachable offenses of President Obama can no longer be ignored. If after all this, he's not impeachable, then no one is."

She's right about that second part. No one is. We've tried impeachment twice, and neither time the weapon worked.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fantasy; impeachment; obama; palin; sarahpalin; uniparty; wesleypruden
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To: EveningStar

Why should Bohner fight it ? He would be 2nd in line and become VP.


41 posted on 07/15/2014 9:53:00 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: itsahoot

I do not support any impeachment action if the Senate will not convict. Conviction requires a vote of two thirds of the members present. That is not going to happen in the current Senate and will not happen in the new Senate even if the Republicans take control. It is a fools’ errand and the conservative movement will pay a big price if anyone is stupid enough to go forward with this.


42 posted on 07/15/2014 9:53:09 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: itsahoot

I do not support any impeachment action if the Senate will not convict. Conviction requires a vote of two thirds of the members present. That is not going to happen in the current Senate and will not happen in the new Senate even if the Republicans take control. It is a fools’ errand and the conservative movement will pay a big price if anyone is stupid enough to go forward with this.


43 posted on 07/15/2014 9:53:35 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Responsibility2nd

He’s worth more in office than out (I almost used different phraseology but the NSA are listening).

I know it seems a forlorn hope, but Obama is doing more to poison liberalism than 100 Jimmy Carters and a 1,000 LBJ’s could ever hope to do.

All sides now concede that his race is as irrelevant as his shoe size. He is the leftist dream personified and all have realized what a nightmare it truly is.


44 posted on 07/15/2014 9:53:45 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: Principled
Really?

Yes, as far as I can tell. In fact some states had such "pauper laws" as late as the 1930s. I'm aware of no court case striking them down. (The states themselves eliminated them by legislation.)

There's a poster on FR who's a real expert on this. He posted to a lot of links about it to me either last fall or earlier this year. Unfortunately I don't recall his screenname. I posted about this before I heard from him, but my research using google didn't turn up anything like what he had.

45 posted on 07/15/2014 9:55:52 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

Imagine the wailing!

Actually it would be a very, very constructive move.


46 posted on 07/15/2014 9:58:22 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is all I could find in a few minutes. I’m sure there is more.

Impeachment

Palin is hardly the first GOP politician to raise the issue of impeachment over the past couple years. Others include Sens. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and Tim Scott (R-S.C.), Reps. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.), Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.), Michael Burgess (R-Tex.) and Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), former congressmen Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) and Allen West (R-Fla.), and the South Dakota Republican Party. Not all of these folks called for Obama’s impeachment directly, but all of them suggested that it is or should be on the table.

Joni Ernst

Who Is She: GOP Senate nominee in Iowa, Iowa state senator, Iowa Army National Guard lieutenant colonel

What She Said: “[President Obama] is absolutely overstepping his bounds. And I do think that he should face those repercussions. Whether that’s removal from office, whether that’s impeachment.” Ernst also said that Obama has “become a dictator” and “is not following our constitution.”

Alan Keyes

Andrew McCarthy
Half of Faithless Execution is comprised of McCarthy’s draft Articles of Impeachment.

The South Dakota Republican Party

Who Are They: 191 state party delegates, who voted to pass an official resolution.

What They Said: “WHEREAS, The president has violated his oath of office in numerous ways with the latest being the release of five terrorists in exchange for a soldier without consulting Congress as required by law … the president of the United States has willfully and wantonly lied to the American people telling them they can keep their insurance company, and they can keep their doctor under Obama Care, prior to an election … THEREFORE, be it resolved that the South Dakota Republican Party calls on our U.S. Representatives to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president of the United States.”

Some wonder if such a proposal would have support in the Senate, but Republican Senator James Inhofe says that if Republicans take the Senate, impeachment will become a very real possibility.

The facts are clear. Barack Obama has failed in his constitutional responsibility to uphold the Constitution and protect the rights of the American people. On top of that, he has also irreparably damaged America’s international reputation through his numerous foreign policy failures and set our nation back in so many other ways. And Congressman Paul Broun agrees that this is more than enough substantive evidence.

The Austin-American Statesman reports that LaRouche Democrat and U.S. Senate candidate Kesha Rogers of Texas is calling for the impeachment of Democratic President Barack Obama. She summarises the chargeson her website. One charge is:

Violation of the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which states that no person shall “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North has said that anyone else would have been impeached by now. And Texas Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst is standing for state officials in saying that Obama must be impeached to protect state interests.

Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA), who is also a candidate for Senate, indicated during a candidate forum hosted by the Gilmer County GOP and Gilmer County Tea Party that he would support impeachment proceedings against Barack Obama. The forum, which was held on Saturday, also included fellow Republican Senate candidates Derrick Grayson, Eugene Yu, Karen Handel, and Art Gardner.

An attendee posed the following question to the candidates. “Clinton was impeached for perjury. Obama has perjured himself on multiple occasions. Would you support impeachment if presented for a vote?”

Broun, Grayson and Yu each raised their hands in the affirmative.


47 posted on 07/15/2014 10:06:25 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Jane Long
Re: “Washington Times...you’re coming across more like HuffPo or other lefty sites.”

The WT has been moving slowly, but steadily, to the Left for about 4 years.

The newspaper has never earned a profit.

Since 2010, its outside funding (previously from the Unification Church) and its ownership structure have been in a state of constant turmoil.

Around 2010, they also hired a senior editor from the Associated Press, which is when the change in political tone became obvious to me.

48 posted on 07/15/2014 10:06:52 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: EveningStar

And obviously the Republicans do not want campaign cash.


49 posted on 07/15/2014 10:09:22 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Principled
Imagine the wailing!

My prediction is that Obama's psyche could not handle impeachment from the US House. In fact, he would explode and do some serious banal moves that would eventually get even some Democratic US Senators to vote to remove him from office.

50 posted on 07/15/2014 10:12:21 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: EveningStar

do both


51 posted on 07/15/2014 10:14:34 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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To: Principled
Actually it would be a very, very constructive move.

Our only hope, if you ask me.

(Which shows how bad I think things are.)

52 posted on 07/15/2014 10:16:14 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG
States can remove their right to vote, just like for felons.

Very doubtful indeed.

May theoretically be within a state's right, but would immediately lead to lawsuits and probable overturning of the law.

There is also the quite tricky issue of deciding what is meant by "on welfare."

53 posted on 07/15/2014 10:18:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: MUDDOG

It was probably Publius. He knows everything.


54 posted on 07/15/2014 10:20:12 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Sherman Logan; MUDDOG
May theoretically be within a state's right, but would immediately lead to lawsuits and probable overturning of the law.

Well if it was them, they'd do it anyway and make the other side take action. Then, they'd ignore the results of any court-mandated action. Then, they'd choose to not enforce any law that would impede them.

Why don't we do that too? We're simply allowing the enemy [and they are an enemy] to defeat us by having us enforce rules on ourselves that they do NOT adhere to. Alinksy #4?

55 posted on 07/15/2014 10:24:56 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: txhurl
Could be. I just don't remember. I had done some rudimentary research about it using google, and not gotten too far, when I first posted about it. Then he posted to me a bunch of links and documentation.

So much so, that it seemd like there might be some kind of movement around it.

56 posted on 07/15/2014 10:26:21 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: EveningStar

Except they have completely rigged the polls.


57 posted on 07/15/2014 10:27:53 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Based on what the guy posted to me, there’s been a lot of research into the issue. Sorry I don’t have the links (and too lazy to undertake a search right now)!


58 posted on 07/15/2014 10:28:35 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Principled
Well if it was them, they'd do it anyway and make the other side take action.... Why don't we do that too?

Exactly! And not just on this issue.

It's what Obama does. He does something, and then defies us to overturn it.

59 posted on 07/15/2014 10:32:09 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

10thAmendment?


60 posted on 07/15/2014 10:52:21 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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