The Texans: Rick Perry Or Ted Cruz For 2016?

Townhall ^ | 07/01/2014 | Matt Mackowiak |

[itsahoot]

You can disagree until the cows come home, but you are still wrong.

Yep, yet here you are still trying to prove it. I have no dog in this fight, but clearly the Founders made a special effort to differentiate the Citizenship requirement. Now comes the legalistic morons to try and muddy up clear meanings, because it suits their purpose to do so.

I have nothing more to say on the subject since I will be voting for Sarah Palin, no matter who is running.

[SoConPubbie]

Yep, yet here you are still trying to prove it. I have no dog in this fight, but clearly the Founders made a special effort to differentiate the Citizenship requirement. Now comes the legalistic morons to try and muddy up clear meanings, because it suits their purpose to do so.

The only people "muddy"ing up this discussion are those purporting that they can prove that there is some constitutional requirement for "Natural Born" status that requires 2 citizen parents at birth.

I have continually asked in these discussions for some type of definitive, unambiguous proof from the Constitution, US Law, and/or SCOTUS ruling. None has been presented, because it does not exist.

Furthermore, there was not even unanimous agreement among the Founders on this issue.

Call it "legalistic" all you want, but our system is a legal system and none of you that are supporting this 2-parent theory have provided any constitutional or legal foundation for your position and have incorrectly substituted your understanding/opinion of what the Founders believed or thought for constitutionality.

Which is incorrect and wrong.

[South40]

Perry is a good choice for RINO dream ticket. Perry and Christie.

And notice, he still has his RINO, liberal supporters.

[itsahoot]

none of you that are supporting this 2-parent theory have provided any constitutional or legal foundation for your position and have incorrectly substituted your understanding

The Constitution says what is says, It is you that insist it says something else, now move along, you are getting tiresome.

I will vote for Sarah Palin no matter who is on the ballot.

[SoConPubbie]

The Constitution says what is says, It is you that insist it says something else, now move along, you are getting tiresome.

Yes it does, and you have still not provided any proof that it requires 2 US Citizen parents.

You are still substituting your opinion for constitutionality and legality.

Your opinion does not equate to constitutionality or legality.

[precisionshootist]

Well we will have to agree to disagree. When the framers wrote the NBC requirement I think NBC had meaning. I highly doubt they used the term with the idea it would have to be decided later as to what it meant. Clearly the intent was to limit the presidentcy to loyal Americans by birth. If Cruz was born on the soil of Canada and has one Canadian parent he’s at least a Natural Born Canadian even more so than American. Using him as an example one must be able to be natural born citizens of multiple countries. Since this definition would do nothing to limit the presidentcy to loyal Americans then that tells us this could not have been the framers meaning of NBC. It must be something MORE than having just one citizen parent.

[itsahoot]

Your opinion does not equate to constitutionality or legality.

Ever wonder why people hate lawyers?

[Texask9]

Being a Texas, I think Perry should stay with Governorship, he is not conservative enough for me and he has done fine with the state. In case you don’t know, the Lt Governor has more power in Texas than the Governor.
Cruz on the other hand has all the qualities I desire in a commander and chief but I would hate to lose him as a Senator.